Robert Abernethy, of James River - Robert Abernathy (1632-1685)

Larry---

I am naturally very interested in your research as Robert AbernEthy is my 7th great grandfather. The spelling with an "A" is an Americanized spelling. My research corresponds with yours that the 7th Lord of Saltoun (Thomas George Abernethy) was Robert's grandfather. I am confused, however, about the dates you mentioned. You indicate "George was born in 1632..." . Is this George the father or George the grandfather? Then you indicate Robert was born in 1632. Something is apparently amiss as you indicate Robert was also born in 1632.

As I am sure you are aware there is a great deal of controversy regarding even the existence of Robert's theoretical father. Any information you have confirming who it is and some of his historical background would be appreciated. George de Barrie Abernethy or George Abernethy de Barrie (I've seen it both ways) seems to be an almost ghost-like figure whose life has been the basis for some very lively debate across the internet over the years.

Your research is impressive and I look forward to cooperating with you to hopefully put a final conclusion to Robert's Scottish ancestry.

Happy hunting!
Nathan Abernethy

My son's 9th great grandfather.

Abernathy and Abernethy may be the same in many cases and simply spelling variation BUT the Y is different.

DNA Markers: R-M269 R1b1a2a1a1b4

My son is related to Abernethy but it goes around...rather than direct, to some Abernethy. I have looked to see if perhaps some are not yet in the tree. Fact remains there are TWO Y's so they are NOT both male Abernathy line...wonder if there was a female Abernathy that passed down the name.

He lines up with you, Nathan Abernethy... you are 8th cousins...Abernathy at first and last but there is a BREAK where it goes FEMALE and then the spelling changes.

My son has not yet tested. Too far for AncestryDNA but Y should show the same.

I signed your guestbook back in March. I will let you know if I am able to convince him to test <3

I have not added my children to Geni.

"March 1, 2019 at 1:36 PM

Two of my sons are Abernathy. You are their father's 7th cousin per the Geni trek. He is not on Geni and I want to preserve his privacy. I see you use Abernethy instead of Abernathy.
Nathan Abernethy is ___ Abernathy's 7th cousin.
____ Abernathy
→ ___ Abernathy
his father → ____ Abernathy
his father → Joseph Noah Abernathy
his father → Sion Baazell Abernathy
his father → Battee Abernathy
his father → Battee Abernathy
his father → Miles Abernathy
his father → Mary May Smith
his sister → Richard Rockett, II
her son → Sarah Melvina Rockett Abernethy
his daughter → Starling Gibb Abernethy
her son → John Ware Abernethy
his son → Benjamin McCleskey Abernethy
his son → Arvord Milner Abernethy
his son → Nathan Abernethy
his son
I saw you on a DNA tab. My sons have not tested. Lovely to meet you."

No path found to larry singer.

"a" and "e" seems to have no real bearing on the ancestry of the family. It appears that the William Abernathy side, up north, used the "e" mostly. I base the birth date of our first Robert as 1632. The information from the Public Records Office on Chancery Lane, London states" At the battle of Worcester, September 15, 1651, Robert Abernathy, age 19, son of George Abernethy de Barrie held the rank of captain and served under General Leslie from Banff, one of his kinsmen. .................If I listed one of the George Abernathy's dates of birth as 1632, I was wrong. I can't explain why I would have done that.

The Abernathy clan were Lords of Saltoun for many years. The last to hold the title that was in my ancestral line was George, 7th Lord Saltoun. His grandmother Lady Margaret Abernathy was the last, 10th Lord Saltoun. At this time, the family couldn't sustain expenses, etc. and the title went to the Fraser family. Our first Robert was the grandson of George, 7th Lord. By the way, I lived in the UK for many years and have traveled extensively. Saltoun isn't a large place. Although the title is impressive, it is like being the mayor of a suburban town near a big city, in this case Edinburgh. But for us doing research, finding an ancestor with a title opens the door to lots of opportunities research wise.

My ancestral line is as follows:
1- Robert I (1632-1685)
2- Robert II (1670-1738) married Christine Tillman (Tilghman)
3- Robert III (1695-1772)
4- David (1726-1814) married Martha Turner
5- Miles (1774-1863)
6- daughter Susanah Abernathy (circa 1800-1845) Birth and death dates are a mystery. Shown in the 1840 census as being between 30-40. She married Francis J. Lehman, Sr. on December 18, 1824 in Lincoln County. Dater concerning her is a mystery. She seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth without being noted.
7- daughter Christine Lehman (daughter of Susannah) (1840-1924), Lincoln Co. N.C. married George W. Goodson (1838-1918)
8. daughter Jemime Goodson
9

To continue (I accidentally sent prematurely before): My mother would be number 9, so Robert I was my 7th great grandfather.

As a point of possible interest, Robert II's wife was Christine Tillman. Most know that her father was the sponsor of indentured Robert I. Christine's father was Roger Tillman who married Susannah Hunt Parham. Susannah's father was William Hunt and his father was the Reverend Robert Hunt, 1st Chaplin at Jamestown, Virginia (1607) also my 7th great great grandfather. The Abernathy family has made research possible for such interesting other ancestors as the Blounts, Devereux (descended from William the Conqueror) Stewarts and numerous others.

I have found that I have a direct line as well.
I love the name and the history.

Or maybe I did BEFORE the disconnection of this Robert’s parents?
I do wish Geni had a way to search one’s names of directs more easily

Those that often married the Abernathy's had their own interesting history and links to royalty, etc.

Be sure you take anything on the tree with a grain of salt. I've been trying to correct all inconsistencies and inaccuracies that I can, but not every family tree I have aligns perfectly with each other, so I'm not sure what to believe with some relationships. I do know that my 2nd great grandfather Birdsong came to Texas from Giles County, TN with his 1st Cousin who was an Abernathy. before that I've had to go on other's documents.

One might consider the Abernathy no more significant as that of the Blounts, Devereux, or other ancestors that branched from the Abernathys'. They are all my blood linked grandparents with documentation. Like many other researchers, I spend 90 percent of my time trying to prove that I am wrong and that my information is as accurate as possible.

Nathan, I found that we are linked through Robert Abernathy IV and his wife Mary Harwell. They were my 5th great grandparents.I have found many extensive journals and chronicles on the Abernathy family and the history of Lincoln County, N.C. where many ended up in the 1750s.

In a previous posting dated 19 November 27, 3:22 pm, I said that George Abernathy was born in 1632 and not 1623. I made a serious mistake. I meant Robert I. I accidentally typed George's name instead. George, Robert's father, was actually born in 1590. Thank you Nathan for bringing this to my attention. Our first Robert was born in 1632.