Abraham Pietersen van Deursen - Parents of Abraham Pietersen

Started by Eligio Gael Rodriguez Diaz on Saturday, October 5, 2019
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10/5/2019 at 3:59 PM

I see in the "General" that "He was born in 1607 in Haarlem to Pieter van Deursen (c1575-?) and Maria or Paulina Vincke (c1575-?). Pieter and Maria/Paulina were married on January 15, 1591 in Haarlem".

Here, in Geni, parents appear in the tree as Pieter Jansz and Paulina Vincke

I find differences in a reliable source, a genealogy manuscript by Harriet Stryker-Rodda, Brooklyn-New York 1965 (serious and renown genealogist).
In this one, parents are shown as Pieter Lucass and Maria Jans, married in Haarlem, Netherlands.

Could it be that these parents are the same?
Being Pieter Lucass the same as Pieter Lucass Jansz and Maria (Paulina) Vincke had taken the surname of her husband becoming Maria Jans?

I have tagged the parents' both profiles in the manuscript I refer to.
You can find a copy of the Manuscript "Okie Ancestry Of Reg.(Inald) Okie" of Greenwich-Conn by Harriet Stryker-Rodda, Brooklyn-New York 1965." in the Multimedia tab of any of the referred profiles. They appear on the upper right section of the document.

Any light on the subject will be appreciated.

1/5/2020 at 1:06 AM

The following bok on the Van Deursen family might be helpful in sorting out inforation on Abraham Pietersen Van Deursen.

Albert Harrison Van Deusen, Van Deursen Family (New York, New York: Frank Allaben Genealogical Company, 1912).

Teh full text is available for free "search for teerm "VanDeursen family" on archive.org. The information concerning Abraham Pietersen begins on page ii (scroll page 69 in copy of book on right). According to page lxii, "the records contain no mention of [Tryntje Melchiors/Melcherts] other than as a wife and mother.."

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Ther is an extensive discussio regarding the queiton of:
"What's the best LNAB for Abraham Pieterszen van Deursen and who were his parents?" over at Wikitree. This discussion lays out in detail who is and is not the parents of Abraham Pietersen Van Deursen. Here is the hyperlink to this discussion:
https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/158375/whats-the-best-lnab-abraham-pie...

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The website http://www.wiregrassgenealogy.com/captdave55/crews2015a/1328.htm
gives the following information concerning the parentage of Abraham Pietersen Van Deursen:

He [Abraham Pietersen] was born in 1607 in Haarlem to Pieter van Deursen (c1575-?) and Maria or Paulina Vincke (c1575-?). Pieter and Maria/Paulina were married on January 15, 1591 in Haarlem. Abraham was baptized in Haarlem on Wednesday, November 11, 1607, and the witnesses were Jan Jans and Styntjen Jans.[1][2]"
Sources listed for above:
1 Cathy Maloney (St Marys, Georgia), interview by David Crews, 17 Sep 2014; verbal.

2 database, Family Search�( https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VK39-DX9 : accessed 9 May 2013), Entry for Harry Lee Crews and Gretchen Rebeccs Crews; Family Search.

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othre sites of possible interest:
https://longislandsurnames.com/getperson.php?personID=I0496&tre...

http://www.rjvanduzer.com/van-duzer-genealogy/american-ancestry.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/24/nyregion/the-story-of-the-van-du...

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Hopefuly from the above information it wil be possible to positively ascertain who the true and actual parents of Abraham Pietersen Van Deursen are. I look forward to hearing more about this family and learning the final result of this puzzle.

Jathan Pfeifle
(8th great grandson of Abraham Pietersen Van Deursen and wife Trynitje Melchiors)

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