Phinehas Nixon - Researching Friends Records and Nixon genealogy book- Phineas Nixon's parents -

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9/13/2019 at 4:19 PM

This profile is currently showing conflicting parents

Zachariah Duplicate tree do not merge Nixon, Jr

And also Elizabeth Symons, Duplicate tree do not merge

Not married to each other - each has a “blank profile” (empty node) in the Spouse position.

9/13/2019 at 4:31 PM

This looks like the match

Dr. Phineas Nixon, Jr.

Leon Goins vol Cheraw at Large Texas Chapter, #RH1690982
9/15/2019 at 6:35 AM
Leon Goins vol Cheraw at Large Texas Chapter, #RH1690982
9/15/2019 at 6:38 AM

Is thos Phineas Nixon of debate, the Quaker and following of George Fox’s new take on the religion or the free person of color in Randolph County, NC in Colonial records?

9/21/2019 at 5:51 PM

Never knew of this marriage.
Leon Goins vol Cheraw at Large Texas Chapter, #RH1690982
9/14/2019 at 12:28 PM
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Phineas Nixon appears at least twice in Bastardy bonds in North Carolina. He begat two illegitimate children on Patsy Hooker - William Clarkson Hooker and Rufus Hooker of Randolph County, NC.
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Absolutely not! You have the wrong Phineas Nixon, This was Dr. Phineas Nixon, MD -- There was another Phineas Nixon in this area of Randolph County, NC during this same time- your DNA does match us. We have very distinct yDNA Halo type - we also carry very unique mutations-

I challenge Anne Nixon Cox as being attached to our Ancestry -
1. The children even Bastards would've been listed on the Quaker/Friends Meeting notes --- they listed and had meetings about everything that happened with their members-

2. He would've married her after the death of Millicent- even if out of Quaker/Freinds Religion this would've been noted and we would've picked this up in our Nixon Ancestry Book.

3. You have the wrong branch of Nixon's- there was another Scotch-Irish group that had our family names, but they were not Quaker.

You will need DNA proof we have direct yDNA from Family Tree (BigY) and paper trail proof to re-write this very documented family lineage. I challenge this and ask for a disconnect. He didn't begat these two children, sorry we don't match your DNA strong enough., you have the wrong Phineas Nixon.

Leon Goins vol Cheraw at Large Texas Chapter, #RH1690982
9/22/2019 at 11:14 AM

Ummm since I do not know who the “you” is in this discussion, would you please use a salutation or name when starting discussions. Ive been ignoring them since i do not know who all of this is directed to.

Leon Goins vol Cheraw at Large Texas Chapter, #RH1690982
9/22/2019 at 2:21 PM

Also there are two Back Creek Meeting Houses. One is in Randolph County, NC. https://www.findagrave.com/cemetery/1976654/back-creek-friends-meet... So we have same name people with same name religious affiliations.

Leon Goins vol Cheraw at Large Texas Chapter, #RH1690982
9/22/2019 at 2:37 PM

Also if you are using Clarence Goins YDNA which is indeed Scottish because that is his paternal line, The William Clarkson Hooker who according to Randolph County Bastardy Bonds and Rufus Hooker were begat on Nixon is maternal Hall line and not the Scottish line for DNA sake.

9/22/2019 at 6:00 PM

@Leon Goins I apologize it was late when I was posting. What I was trying to say was normally when yDNA matches Geni will add you with us in the mix for everyone to test with.

It gets confusing for our Quaker lineage with the overuse of the names in the same area, not to mention the Worldwide web and everyone mixing up the lineage over the years with the Meeting Records.

I apologize if I came across as harsh, I was only trying to defend a very Christian Quaker Medical Doctor who worked 7 days week, was on call 24 hours a day. Who lived by the Gospel. This man had no negative reports with The Society of Friends or I would've found it and defiantly reported it even though he's my direct great-grandfather- I've found other skeleton's on other lineages and I do report everything I find.

There was another Indian man in the area named Phineas Nixon, perhaps he is the one you are looking for- I seriously doubt this man had the time for an affair, he died before his beloved wife Millicent Nixon (Henley) She was his nurse and assistant- so figure out how he had the time? They had several children themselves-

Will be happy to compare on GEDmatch on. the other lineage cousins

9/24/2019 at 3:56 AM

@Dan Cornet where did you do your research? This file has gone from bad to worse!

This is a proven lineage- published genealogy book -

Sad a person can come in and claim a wonderful Christian man who was a Medical Doctor - his wife assisted him --- she drove his wagon to each call- he slept between calls....

He worked 7 days a weeks 24 hours a day with his wife bu his side-
him and Millicent had 13 Children

He was a repespected The Society of Friend's (Quaker) from birth to death- no reprimands--- !!!

He didn't have - 2 other wives at the same time he was married to Millicent --- he didn't father BASTARD child

Some idiot has this on Ancestry.com on three different Phineas's Nixon's One o' the Phineas Nixon's married a COX but didn't Indian child- we have the children and BD in our Nixon genealogy book

I'm fed up with people tieing in ridiculous made up genealogy without a bit of a paper trail ---- one single document doesn't do it

Can you answer me why, when I have documentation - from 40 years of research - and our grandson of Zachariah Nixon's yDNA to disprove this file was totally wrecked?

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9/24/2019 at 5:56 AM

I have resources showing Esther Jones Married his son Dr. Phineas Nixon III - she wasn't also married to his daddy at the same time?

I'm still challenging the girlfriend Ann Cox you have it on the wrong Phineas just saying

I know my Nixon's I'm a straight lineage on this one... have an excellent book and plenty of meeting notes

Please help get this confusion unconfused, so I can continue to document files.

9/24/2019 at 6:01 AM

The Phineas Nixon Mr. Goines need to find was the mixed-race Phineas Nixon that lived in the same area during the same time. I did my best to explain I've come across this man in Census Reports. .

9/24/2019 at 6:12 AM

Jesse Henley Nixon

this is Phineas's son who married Mary Ann Cox - the children lised match the genealogy book and all Census Records and Meeting Notes.

9/24/2019 at 6:20 AM

So, theoretically, you managed now to have the father-in-law married to Millicent their mother, then also at the same time married

to a son, Jesse Henley Nixon

& to son Phineas Nixon all at the same time ----
Phineas Nixon, III

really need to delete the two on the fathers' profile

9/24/2019 at 7:15 AM

re: the multiple wives of Phineas Nixon, II

The 'extras' have been moved to (& merged) with the proper daughter-in-laws. (As they were originally different profiles, they really weren't showing up as "father married to daughter-in-law") ... thanks for noticing the problem.

That's any easy "mistake" to have happen when an un-dated section of a branch gets merged into another (profiles of same-named father/son get mis-aligned).

9/24/2019 at 7:23 AM

Suzan: When you have well-documented branches for several generations, the best way to preserve the accuracy of the relationships is to work with a Curator to set a Relationship-Lock (R-L) on the family groups. Once set, a R-L prevents merges from "bringing in" extraneous profiles (and also prevents non-Curators from changing relationships).

I'm sure no one was intentionally "messing up" the Nixon lineage. Once R-L's are set on documented, complete family groupings, then "bad" / mis-information from elsewhere on the Internet can't continue to disrupt what is correct.

9/24/2019 at 1:34 PM

Well, thank you. Well, it happened and upset me. I already put this one to rest and had a curator correct, only to come back see this hot mess.

Now, I can't' make heads or tails out of this.

I'm having migraines from low barometric pressure in Houston, raining every day for over a week from Imelda Storm--- This gave me a bigger headache.

9/24/2019 at 2:17 PM

Phineas married Millicent Nixon on September 16, 1787 they were approved to be married. Our family records have the marriage date as October 16, 1787, as The Wedding Date at Back Creek Meeting of The Society of Friends, Randolph, North Carolina, United States, Guilford, North Carolina, United States. Together they had the following children:

Jesse Henley Nixon;
Mary Cosand;
Thomas Nixon, MD;
Anna Henley Winslow;
Dr. Phineas Nixon, III;
Zachariah Nixon;
Barnabas Nixon, MD;
Gabriel H Nixon;
Stephen Nixon, MD;
John Nixon;
Henley Nixon;
Millicent Jones.

He died on November 23, 1837, Back Creek Meeting Society of Friend, Pasquotank County, North Carolina, United States.

9/24/2019 at 2:21 PM

It's a common mistake to confuse the Friends Meeting when a couple is approved to be married - to the actual ceremony of marriage. Some Quakers, if the spouse was marrying outside of the town they lived then the Society may actually have approved and arranged the ceremony on the same day or week, but it is clearly written. One must read what is written in the original documents.

9/24/2019 at 2:24 PM

I had an extra source of verification of death- besides just Meeting notes and our genealogy book, for this Dr. Phineas Nixon, I found a Newspaper Obit I've posted with the same matching date.

9/24/2019 at 2:26 PM

The death date I had was correct - Nov 23, 1827 - someone changed, please correct all of the above and RL lock

9/24/2019 at 3:27 PM

I corrected his death date-, the marriage, the date I haven't checked on but will check on and update as needed. I believe the confusion was a
earlier marriage date was picked up from the intention to marry date-

Intention to marry always comes first with Quakers-

then they married Oct, 16, 1787-

Erica, what is your opinion on the marriage?

9/24/2019 at 3:31 PM

I'm taking a migraine and Yoga break. Please accept my apology for my misunderstanding and bluntness. I do appreciate everything you do in here Dan. I was dazed and confused.

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