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Query on parents of Thomas HUXLEY

Started by Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 on Sunday, September 8, 2019
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Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 C
9/8/2019 at 9:03 PM

There seems to be some debate about who Thomas Huxley [Convict "Salamander" 1791] parents are

Two sets of parents have been put onto Geni

Set 1
Father - Uriah Huxley (1744-1795)
Mother - Mary Huxley (1739-1778) daughter of Caleb Lloyd (1707-1768) and Judith Colsworthy (1713-1769)

Set 2
Father - Uriah Huxley (1743-1785)
Mother - Mary Ann Huxley (1745-1785) daughter of Owen Lloyde (1660-1703) and Susannah Lloyde (born 1683)

Thomas conviction only has the information Thomas HUCKLES aka Thomas JONES. Upon arrival he referred to himself as Thomas JONES and gradually changed it to Thomas HUXLEY by the 1820's

Can anyone provide any sources that show that the Thomas JONES/HUCKLES/HUXLEY who arrived on "Salamander" is the son of either of these 2 families?
Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 C
9/8/2019 at 9:15 PM

https://australianroyalty.net.au/individual.php?pid=I52612&ged=...

The 1828 census records Thomas as having arrived per the ship Salamander in 1791. Thomas referred to himself as Thomas Jones in the colony and seems to have gradually changed it to Thomas Huxley by the mid to late 1820s. He is variously recorded in the musters of the 1820s as Thomas Jones, Thomas Uxley and Thomas Huxley. In the 1822 and 1825 musters Ann Forbes is recorded as the wife of Thomas Uxley and Thomas Jones and in 1828 the wife of Thomas Huxley.
I can locate only one man named Thomas Jones who is listed in the State Library of Queensland's transportation database as having arrived per the Salamander. He is also listed as "alias Ayres". This Thomas Jones was convicted at Middlesex Gaol Delivery for a term of 7 years on 26 May 1790. There is no mention in this database of Thomas Huxley per Salamander.
Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 C
9/8/2019 at 9:16 PM

https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/huxley/thomas/131046

On the 9th December 1789, THOMAS JONES (THOMAS HUXLEY) was indicted for stealing, on the 7th of November 1789, forty-two steel files, value 3/-. These the property of William Knight an ironmonger.
Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 C
9/8/2019 at 9:17 PM

https://convictrecords.com.au/convicts/huxley/thomas/131046

Tried and convicted at the Old Bailey on 9th December 1789 for stealing, on the 7th of November last, 42 steel files, value 3 s. the property of William Knight, sentenced to 7 years transportation.

Timothy Perrin Fisher-Jeffes
9/10/2019 at 4:35 AM

Other than dates I don't think the discrepancy is with Uriah and Mary Ann Huxley but rather with Mary Ann's parents, right?
Leanne M (Volunteer Curator - Australia) 🇦🇺 C
9/10/2019 at 4:38 AM

There seems to be two people - Mary Lloyd and Mary Ann Lloyd

Paul Arne Bech
9/12/2019 at 2:39 AM

I have serious doubts about the parentage of Thomas Huxley. We recently had a Huxley descendant take a Y DNA test. The results show no matches with the surnames of Huxley or Jones (or resemblances of them). The most common surname amongst the matches was Stewart. We have found three people who descend from Thomas Dilnot Stewart https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Stewart-30124 who match DNA with our Huxley tester.
The quality of the match indicates a common ancestor further back than this. We will know more as closer relatives take the test.

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