Suster Bouts - Surnames of women in New Amsterdam

Started by Private User on Saturday, June 22, 2019
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Private User
6/22/2019 at 4:00 PM

Does anyone know when the Dutch women of New Amsterdam began using their husband's surnames? After 1686 when England took over? (just a guess)

6/22/2019 at 4:24 PM

Actually it depends on what record you are using, as the Dutch Reformed Church was still in business & using Dutch names. The very best approach is to use the “add a language” function and write the names according to both English and Dutch and even (possibly) Latin - a strength of Geni !

See https://www.geni.com/blog/new-on-geni-multilingual-profiles-386125....

6/22/2019 at 4:26 PM

(And don’t forget about the French living in New Netherland also)

Private User
7/5/2019 at 10:26 AM

We also need to firm up the dates for this person. What we have can't be correct.

Private User
7/6/2019 at 11:23 AM

Thank you, Erica.

Ashley: I raised the question because in my research, I have found no satisfactory evidence to support the parentage claimed for Suster on her Geni profile. There is only one source I have found that gives her surname as Bouts. That is the record of that name (Suster Bouts) as a co-sponsor for the baptism of her namesake grandchild. By that time, her husband, Cornelis Cornelisen Viele, had died. So, having found nothing but conjecture regarding her surname Bouts, I was wondering if she may have remarried to a Bouts. Until there is some substance other than someone's guess, perhaps the 'parents' of Suster should be disconnected from her profile? Her 'About' tab contains the source of the conjecture for anyone who wants to review it.
If her parentage was Mohawk, as some passed down stories claim, it may be rather difficult to pin down accurate birth dates, parentage, etc. But I am just guessing here. I have no experience or knowledge of Mohawk genealogies.
Somewhere I read that Suster means sister. Someone was speculating that as possible proof that she may have been a sister of a Mohawk chief. NO mention was made of what language they were 'translating' into English from. I used an online translator to discover that Zuster is the Dutch word for sister. I also read this was not used by the Dutch as a name prior to our Suster. She is one of my 10th great grandmothers. I am trying to confirm my lineages. Where proof is lacking, I would prefer it be made clear that the proposed facts are only that and that they not be left to mislead anyone into thinking that they are in fact, the truth.

Private User
7/6/2019 at 11:50 AM

The sources we have for her are very weak -- mostly information derived from published family trees. Perhaps what we need to do before trying to firm up her parents is cite her marriage(s) and motherhood.

I'm fine with cutting her parents, but let's wait a couple days to see if any other managers want to weigh in.

Private User
7/6/2019 at 1:48 PM

Sounds good to me. :-)
I'll see if I can find some of those citations and attach them.

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