Haplogroup Rb1-P310

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Private User
6/7/2019 at 3:59 PM

My family origin is French (Narbonne and Maco) and we move in Italy about 1180 in Spoleto and after in Siena where many feudal families were of French origin.
My haplogroup in Ftdna is R-P310, on YFull R-L52* with some "no call"; now I'm updating my test from Y-500 to Y-700 in Ftdna.
I would like to know if there is someone with the same haplogroup interested to understand possible historical relationship.
Paolo G. Amerighi

6/7/2019 at 5:38 PM

En France, pays des Droits de l'Homme ( de préférence chez les autres) l'analyse de l'ADN est réservé aux problèmes médicaux et ne peut être effectuée que sur prescription médicale. (Ça prend presque une année pour avoir les résultats) L'analyse a titre généalogique est donc INTERDITE de fait et de droit. D'ailleurs dans GENI, quand on est inscrit comme français, la partie ADN est censurée.

6/7/2019 at 5:42 PM

In France, a country of human rights (preferably in others) DNA analysis is reserved for medical problems and can only be performed on medical prescription. (It takes almost a year to get the results) The genealogical analysis is therefore PROHIBITED in fact and in law. Moreover, in GENI, when one is registered as French, the DNA part is censored.

6/8/2019 at 1:12 AM

Paolo Giuseppe Amerighi is your 30th cousin once removed.
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You Normund Abolins
→ Alfrēds Abolins
your father → Austra Aizsilniece
his mother → Mārcis Briedis
her father → Dāvis Briedis
his father → Oswald Hermann Ernst von Campenhausen
his father → Maria Clementine Freiin von Wolff
his mother → Marie Clementine de Fallois de Feoville
her mother → Jean Baptiste Charles Josephe de Fallois, baron de Feoville
her father → Jean Baptiste de Fallois de Feoville
his father → Jean Nicolas de Fallois de Feoville
his father → Anne Francoise le Fournier de Neuville
his mother → Madeleine de Montmorency d'Esquencourt
her mother → Benjamin de Montmorency, seigneur d'Esquencourt, Chevalier
her father → Jean de Montmorency, seigneur de Bours
his father → Gabriel de Montmorency, seigneur de Bours
his father → Nicolas de Montmorency, seigneur de Bours
his father → Hugues de Montmorency, seigneur de Bours
his father → Philippe de Montmorency, seigneur de Croisilles
his father → Philippine de Montmorency
his mother → Hugues I de Melun, burggraaf van Gent
her father → Jean I, vicomte de Melun
his father → Jeanne de Sully
his mother → Péronnelle de Joigny
her mother → Gaucher I de Joigny, Seigneur De Chasteau-Regnard
her father → Renaud III, comte de Joigny
his father → Wandelmode de Beaujeu
his mother → Wandelmode de Thiern
her mother → Adélaïde de Châlon-sur-Saône
her mother → Thibault de Semur, comte de Châlon
her father → Geoffroy I Arlebaud de Semur
his father → Josserand, Comte de Semur en Brionnais is your(common) 29th great grandfather.
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his father → Froilan dit "Le Blanc" de Briennon, deuxième baron de Semur
his brother → Gauthier ler Le Blanc Seigneur de Briennon
his son → Hugues Ier Le Blanc Seigneur de Briennon
his son → Artaud ler Le Blanc, de Macon, Seigneur de Briennon
his son → Archimbaud ler Le Blanc Vcte de Macon, Seigneur de Crozet
his son → Hugues II Le Blanc Vcte de Macon, Seigneur de Crozet
his son → Artaud ler Le Blanc Vcte de Macon, Seigneur de Crozet
his son → Archimbaud ll Le Blanc Vcte de Macon, Seigneur de Crozet
his son → Americus aka Hulricus Le Blanc, de Macon, Coseigneur de Crozet
his son → Aimerigulinus Aimerighi de Machoni, Nobile di Siena
his son → Aimerighus Aimerighi, Nobile di Siena
his son → Gosus Aimerighi, Nobile di Siena
his son → Benintendi AMERIGHI, Nobile di Siena
his son → Gherardo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son → Amerigo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son → Pavolo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son → Amerigo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son → Amerigo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son → Niccolò AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son → Amerigo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena, Cavaliere dello Speron d'Oro, Conte Palatino
his son → Mario AMERIGHI, Partizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son → Orazio AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son → Carlo AMERIGHI, Partizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son → Orazio Maurizio Maria Amerighi, Patrizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son → Raffaello Amerighi, Partizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son → Pier Francesco Amerighi, Patrizio di Siena e di Firenze, Conte AMERIGHI
his son → Giuseppe Raffaello AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son → Fabio Maria AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son → <privāts> AMERIGHI
his son → <privāts> Amerighi
his son → Paolo Giuseppe Amerighi
his son

Paolo Giuseppe Amerighi
<privāts> Amerighi un <privāts> Pittoni dēls
Annapieras Des Lucas vīrs
<privāts> Amerighi; {$w0} {$w1} {$w2} {$w3} Siena, Conte AMERIGHI un
{$w0} {$w1} {$w2} {$w3} Siena, Conte AMERIGHI tēvs
Roberto Amerighi, Patrizio di Siena, Contes AMERIGHI brālis

6/8/2019 at 1:31 AM

Sorry but i can't help you.

6/8/2019 at 2:32 AM

Bonjour.Merci de m'avoir traduit ma réponse…..Pierre Henri Renée Quénée. ...Comment m'a-t-on trouvée ?.Alors si je comprends bien, mon ancetre était Alfreds Abolins ?

Private User
6/8/2019 at 3:42 AM

Pablo,

I suggest that you also join my Sephardic Heritage project at FTDNA and Adam Brown's Big Y Avoytanu project. You will have to write to him directly at avotaynudna@gmail.com .

Alain Farhi
Group Administrator (not an FTDNA staff)
Sephardic Heritage DNA Study
Web Site : http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Sephardic_Heritage
Sponsor: International Institute of Jewish Genealogy
http://www.iijg.org/home/projects1.html
Email: alain@farhi.org

6/8/2019 at 4:09 AM

Bonjour
Moi je suis intéréssé ,mais pour l'instant je suis en attente de mes résultats qui ne devraient plus tardés
Alain Farhi pouvez vous nous en dire un peu plus sur votre projet
j'avoue que pour l'instant je ne maitrise pas encore le sujet de l'adn généalogique
désolé
Wilfrid

Private User
6/9/2019 at 3:25 AM

Ce project a ete cree en 2005 pour voir si 50 sefarades avaient des ancetres communs. Lire a cette oage un article que j'ai ecrit en 2007 pour Avotaunu.

https://www.farhi.org/files/Avotaynu_Sephardic%20DNA_Study.pdf

Depuis ce projet comprend plus de 200 hommes et femmes.

6/9/2019 at 7:19 AM

Paolo Giuseppe Amerighi is (Normunds Abolins) 30th cousin once removed.
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De moi: Normund Abolins
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till Josserand, le comté de Semur en Brionnais est mon arbre généalogique.
Josserand, Comte de Semur en Brionnais is your(N.A.$ Paolo Giuseppe Amerigh`s common) 29th great grandfather.
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De Josserand, Comte de Semur en Brionnais jusqu’à Paolo Giuseppe Amerighi est votre arbre généalogique
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his father
→ Froilan dit "Le Blanc" de Briennon, deuxième baron de Semur
his brother
→ Gauthier ler Le Blanc Seigneur de Briennon
his son
→ Hugues Ier Le Blanc Seigneur de Briennon
his son
→ Artaud ler Le Blanc, de Macon, Seigneur de Briennon
his son
→ Archimbaud ler Le Blanc Vcte de Macon, Seigneur de Crozet
his son
→ Hugues II Le Blanc Vcte de Macon, Seigneur de Crozet
his son
→ Artaud ler Le Blanc Vcte de Macon, Seigneur de Crozet
his son
→ Archimbaud ll Le Blanc Vcte de Macon, Seigneur de Crozet
his son
→ Americus aka Hulricus Le Blanc, de Macon, Coseigneur de Crozet
his son
→ Aimerigulinus Aimerighi de Machoni, Nobile di Siena
his son
→ Aimerighus Aimerighi, Nobile di Siena
his son
→ Gosus Aimerighi, Nobile di Siena
his son
→ Benintendi AMERIGHI, Nobile di Siena
his son
→ Gherardo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son
→ Amerigo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son
→ Pavolo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son
→ Amerigo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son
→ Amerigo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son
→ Niccolò AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena
his son
→ Amerigo AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena, Cavaliere dello Speron d'Oro, Conte Palatino
his son
→ Mario AMERIGHI, Partizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son
→ Orazio AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son
→ Carlo AMERIGHI, Partizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son
→ Orazio Maurizio Maria Amerighi, Patrizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son
→ Raffaello Amerighi, Partizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son
→ Pier Francesco Amerighi, Patrizio di Siena e di Firenze, Conte AMERIGHI
his son
→ Giuseppe Raffaello AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son
→ Fabio Maria AMERIGHI, Patrizio di Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
his son
→ <privāts> AMERIGHI
his son
→ <privāts> Amerighi
his son
→ Paolo Giuseppe Amerighi
his son

Paolo Giuseppe Amerighi
<private> Amerighi and <private> Pittoni son
Annapieras Des Lucas husband
<private> Amerighi; {$w0} {$w1} {$w2} {$w3} Siena, Conte AMERIGHI
and {$w0} {$w1} {$w2} {$w3} Siena, Conte AMERIGHI father
Roberto Amerighi, Patrizio di Siena, Contes AMERIGHI brother
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6/10/2019 at 2:52 AM

Merci de votre réponse Alain Farhi
j'ai bien télécargé votre lien ,il va falloir que je révise mon anglais
ça a l'air intéréssant
je comparerai quand j'aurai mes résultats

Private User
6/12/2019 at 1:56 PM

Private User
6/8/2019 at 3:42 AM

Pablo,

I suggest that you also join my Sephardic Heritage project at FTDNA and Adam Brown's Big Y Avoytanu project. You will have to write to him directly at avotaynudna@gmail.com .

Alain Farhi
Group Administrator (not an FTDNA staff)
Sephardic Heritage DNA Study
Web Site : http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Sephardic_Heritage
Sponsor: International Institute of Jewish Genealogy
http://www.iijg.org/home/projects1.html
Email: alain@farhi.org

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Dear Private User,

I would like to be part of this: Sephardic Heritage DNA Study and Adam Brown's Big Y Avoytanu project, my only perplexity is that these groups are public and reserved only for scholars purpose, without a real reciprocal utility for participants to which is reserved only a passive position.
I was telling above about my interest for your proposal, because my lineage is patrilinear from Thierry or Theodoric, comte d'Autun (*) aka knew as Aimery de Narbonne (my family name is Amerighi as many viscount of Narbonne were named Aymeri) until the present, then with the same haplogroup of Theodoric, comte d'Autun and uncle of Charlemagne.

(*) in the opinion of Arthur J. Zuckerman in his "A Jewish Princedom in Feudal France 768-900" Columbia University Press - New York and London - 1972.
Theodoric I Duke of Narbonne was also Makhir western exilarch or prince of the Jews. Then we have in the same person tree different names: Theodoric (Carolingian), Aimey (Visigoth), Makhir (Jewish) for the three different ethnic groups in Narbonne.
The hypothesis of Arthur J. Zuckerman has many opponents, for this reason would be very interesting, with the interpolation of DNA, to know where is the historical truth.

Private User
6/13/2019 at 4:28 AM

Dear cousin Normunds ABOLINS, Aboliņš,
I am happy to know a cousin so far in the time, but only once removed (in Italy is named cousin of first degree), unfortunately our parentage is not on a patrilineal lineage and then not useful as a commune Y-DNA.however thank you for your attention and your time.
your cousin Paolo.

6/13/2019 at 1:13 PM

Bonsoir
Bon j'ai mes résultats mais je ne suis pas trés avancé car je n'ai pas mon Haplogroup
ce doit etre un autre test à faire??
sinon j'ai 3,4 % de juif mais pas Séfarade , moi c'est Ashkénaze
WP

6/14/2019 at 1:42 AM

@wilfrid pastor le mieux c'est le laboratoire 23andme..Là on a l'haplogroupe

6/27/2019 at 1:28 AM

Merci Ginette Juniet ,
j'hesite aussi avec les test de Family tree DNA
qui semble donner plus de correspondances en Europe

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