Col. Edward Hill - Death date may not be accurate

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6/6/2019 at 8:05 AM

According to the journal of the minutes of the House of Burgesses dated 18 June 1680, Edward Hill petitioned that body to restore him to the good graces of the king. His petition was heard and approved, and speaks of him in present tense. See Google Books,

Journals of the House of Burgesses of Virginia, 1619-1658/59, Volume 2
By Virginia. General Assembly. House of Burgesses, Henry Read McIlwaine

EL Harris

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11/2/2020 at 6:40 AM

Dude's been mash-merged WITH HIS FATHER!!!

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11/2/2020 at 6:47 AM

CORRECT dates for Col. Edward Hill of Charles City County, VA are c. 1637-1700.

https://history.house.virginia.gov/members/1725

As for Edward Hill, SR:
Hill, Edward, Sr., is supposed to have been the son of "Master Edward Hill," of Elizabeth City county, buried there in 1622, who distinguished himself by a brave and successful defense of his house against the Indians. Our first acquaintance with Col. Edward Hill, the subject of this sketch, is in 1630, when we find him living at the famous old Virginia home, "Shirley," and representing Charles City county in the house of burgesses. Mention is again made of him as a burgess for Charles City in 1642, as burgess for Charles City and speaker of the house in Oct., 1644, and in the following year. In March, 1645-46, the assembly ordered Capt. Hill and Capt. Thomas Willoughby to go Maryland and demand the return of certain Virginians who had remained there without permission. While in Maryland, Hill was chosen governor by the insurrectionist party, and stayed there in that office for some months. He held a commission from the council of Maryland, dated July 30, 1646, under the name of Gov. Calvert, but it cannot be proved that Calvert really signed it. On Jan. 18, 1646, Edward Hill wrote from Chicacone, Northumberland county, to Leonard Calvert, asking payment of his "sallary in that unhappy service." Gov. Thomas Green answered, promising that his demands should be satisfied. Near the end of the year, Gov. Calvert, in command of a small body of troops, entered the Maryland capital and reinstated himself in the government, whereupon Hill surrendered and returned to Virginia. In August of the following, Mr. Broadhurst was charged with saying that "there is now no governor in Maryland, for Captain Hill is governor, and him only he acknowledged." At a meeting of the Maryland council held June 10, 1648, Capt. Hill demanded from the governor and council "the arrears of what consideration was covenanted unto him by Leonard Calvert, Esq., for his services in the office of Governor of this province, being half of his Lordship's receipts for the year 1646, and half of the customs for the same year." It was ordered that he should be paid. On Aug. 26, 1649, Lord Baltimore issued a proclamation in which he declared that "Captain Edward Hill (the Governor in 1646)" was only his "pretended lieutenant of said province," but never fully authorized by or from him. After his return to Virginia, Hill resumed his seat in the assembly, as a burgess from Charles City. From that time until 1654, when he is mentioned as having been unanimously chosen speaker of the house of burgesses, nothing is known of him except that, in 1650, he was summoned before the council because, without obtaining the license required, he had "collected fifty men to accompany him on an expedition to the lands west of the falls, with the avowed intention of finding gold and silver in these parts." After his election as speaker, one William Hatcher "maliciously reported" him to be an atheist and blasphemer, to the great indignation of the "Honorable Governor and Council," who "cleared the said Colonel Hill, and certified the same unto the House." On March 31, 1654-55, Col. Hill was a member of the council, and in March of the year following, the council ordered that he should be given command of "100 men at least," and sent to remove "by force if necessary," 600 or 700 western and inland Indians who had "set down near the falls of James river and were a great danger." Hill, who was at that time commander-in-chief of Henrico and Charles City counties, at the head of a force consisting of colonists and friendly Pamunkey Indians, met the hostile savages on a small creek in Hanover county, as John Ledderer recites. His little army was put to confusion, and Tottopottomoy, the chief of the Pamunkeys was killed, whence since that day the creek has been known as Tottopottomoy Creek. The failure of the undertaking brought down upon Col. Hill, the censure of the assembly, which directed, in 1656, his suspension form all civil and military offices, that he should be "incapable of restitution but by an assembly," and charged to his account the expenses of procuring peace with the Indians. Col. Hill was successful, however, in regaining the favor of the assembly, for in April, 1658, he was again a member of the council, and in march, 1659, he was a burgess for Charles City and speaker of the house. His death occurred about the year 1663, and he was succeeded in his large landed estates by >>>his son, Col. Edward Hill Jr., of Shirley<<<, of whom a sketch will appear later. http://vagenweb.org/tylers_bios/vol1-11.htm

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11/2/2020 at 7:13 AM

*How many times* have I told you all NEVER to mess around with the Eastern Shore without consulting the Miles Files!!!!

And *why don't you ever listen*???????

11/2/2020 at 7:20 AM

Tyler did say that didn't he, but I very much doubt whether he was really a son of Edward Hill of Elizabeth City.

The statement that in 1630 he was living at Shirley and was a Burgess also seems to be wrong, or at least, it has a wrong date on it.

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11/2/2020 at 7:34 AM

Please recall that we are dealing with 1) Edward Hill the progenitor, who came to Virginia fairly early on and apparently got killed in the Opechancanough raid of 1622; 2) Edward Hill Sr. (Colonel and Burgess) 1590-1663, 3) Edward Hill Jr. (ALSO Col. and Burgess) 1637-1700.

These guys had NO imagination in naming their sons.

11/2/2020 at 7:57 AM

Edward Hill of Elizabeth City is mentioned in 1622. In the Living and Dead list Feb 1623/4 he has a wife Hannah and a child Elizabeth. A few months later he's dead. In the Muster 1624/5 Hannah and Elizabeth are with Spilman, the 2nd husband. Hannah is 23. It's noted somewhere that Edward's 100-acre plot is Elizabeth's land. No sign of a son Edward,

The first Edward Hill of Shirley is adult by 1638, so not Hannah's child. The only way he's Edward's son is if he was born in England to a previous wife, left behind, and immigrated independently later. But this is entirely hypothetical and supported by nothing. He could just as easily be the son of any Tom Dick or Harry Hill in England.

The fact that he came to Virginia is hardly evidence that his father must have come to Virginia. But that's how Virginia genealogy used to be done. Everybody had to be hooked up to a pre-Muster immigrant if a way could be contrived. No evidence required.

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11/2/2020 at 12:44 PM

Leaving the guy who died in 1622 out of it, we've still got two Edward Hills to disentangle.

11/2/2020 at 2:52 PM

“Walter Aston left a widow, Hannah, who proved his will on 25 January 1656/7 in Charles City County.[1] She married second to Col. Edward Hill, Esq., of Shirley, after 8 January 1660 (date of patent).[1] Edward died about 1663 and Hannah was still living in 1666, when she was named a legatee in the will of her son Walter Aston, the younger,[2] which was dated 21 December 1666.”

I’ve updated Hannah Hill just not sure if she’s the mother of all the Aston children.

I’m not sure that Edward Hill, Jr. (based on notes above) is the sister of Edward Hill, Jr., who now looks like he has the correct parents and wives.

11/2/2020 at 2:54 PM

Sorry - Elizabeth Hill

Would she not be this Elizabeth Hill?

“Edward Hill of Elizabeth City is mentioned in 1622. In the Living and Dead list Feb 1623/4 he has a wife Hannah and a child Elizabeth. A few months later he's dead. In the Muster 1624/5 Hannah and Elizabeth are with Spilman, the 2nd husband. Hannah is 23. It's noted somewhere that Edward's 100-acre plot is Elizabeth's land. No sign of a son Edward,“

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