John W. Fowler - There is a problem with this information

Started by Daniel Alan Stevens on Wednesday, May 29, 2019
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5/29/2019 at 11:56 PM

It appears to be in part based on Richard Gildart Fowler's book, but that contained a serious error. The error is as quoted below: "John's second
wife was very probably the Elizabeth Fowler (b. 1784) who
was living alone in Pike Co in 1850, In 1840 they were head-
ing a family in which a young couple with two infants was
present. Since no Fowler of suitable age is residing in the
vicinity of Elizabeth in 1850, we miist accept that these
young people were her son and wife from her first marriage.
In the special veteran's census of 1841 "the veteran" is
listed as "living with John Fowler." Viewing the pattern of
reporting of other cases, however, he could have been refer-
ring to himself, and not his son John, altlx)ugh the latter
was living near him under the name of John W Fowler. Her
maiden name may have been Soles, since in Marl842 John Sr"

The Elizabeth Fowler that was born in 1784 in North Carolina in the 1850 census is living next to the Browder family. John N Browder wasn't her son. We already know who his parents were. His wife however was likely her daughter, also named Elizabeth born around 1820-1822. More than likely the Elizabeth Fowler that is listed was Elizabeth Davis who married William Fowler in North Carolina in 1805. My great grandfather was the son of John N Browder and his wife Elizabeth. His name was in fact, John Fowler Browder and I have more DNA matches with John William Fowler's descendants than any of my other ancestors, over 75 so far. I also match the descendants of the other children of John William's father and grandfather. It is my contention that Elizabeth Davis was John William Fowler's first wife. He may have separated from her by 1850 or died. I realize the book was written in 1985 and so I don't fault the author.

4/14/2023 at 1:49 PM

Consistency Check:Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley) is under 12 years old for the birth of her child Samuel Fowler.Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley) is over 55 years old for the birth of her child Leonard Fowler.Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley) is under 12 years old for the birth of her child James Fowler.Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley) is over 55 years old for the birth of her child Lewis Fowler +.John W. Fowler, II is under 12 years old for the birth of his child Unknown Fowler.Elizabeth Lee Fowler (Davis) is over 55 years old for the birth of her child Emelia Ann Fowler.

4/14/2023 at 1:49 PM

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* Reference: [https://familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LTWK-CH1 FamilySearch Genealogy] - [https://www.geni.com/projects/SmartCopy/18783 SmartCopy]: ''Jan 8 2020, 16:59:37 UTC''

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=== GEDCOM Note ===
[[Category:Pike County, Alabama]]
== Biography ==

Is the following the correct John Fowler?

1840 Pike County, Alabama Census, p. 375

:1m 40-50 [John Fowler]
:1f 40-50 [Elizabeth]
:1m 10-15 [Nathaniel would be about 11 according to the 1850 census] :1f 10-15 [Unknown female 20 to 25 by 1850, md. by then?] :1m 05-10 [Simon would be about 6] :1f 05-10 [Unknown female 15 to 20 by 1850, md. by then?] :1m 00-05 [William would be about 3] :1f 00-05 [Catharine would be about 2]

Is the below John Fowler, Sr.?

1840 Pike County, Alabama Census, p. 361

:1m 50-60 [John W. Fowler] :1f 40-50 :1f 15-20 :1m 10-15 :1f 10-15 :1m 05-10 [Living next door to Lewis Fowler (20-30)] The 1850 Census shows a John and Elisabeth Fowler living in Pike County, Alabama. There are four children in their household: Nathaniel Fowler ( 21, b. North Carolina), Simon Fowler (16, b. Alabama), William Fowler (13, b. Alabama) and Catharine (12, b. Alabama). It is not clear whether this is the same John Fowler. More research is needed.<ref name="1850Census">"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MH57-VY2 : accessed 19 November 2015), John Fowler, Pike county, Pike, Alabama, United States; citing family 485, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).</ref> The 1860 Census shows a John and Elizabeth Fowler living in Gilmer, Georgia. Their household contains four children: Lemuel J (14, b. Georgia), Nancy A (11, b. Georgia), Jerry D (9, b. Georgia) and John P (5) There were originally two profiles for John Fowler. One had his birth year as 1792 and birth place as North Carolina; the other as 1793 and birth place as South Carolina. However, the 1850 Census shows his birth year as 1798 and his birth place as S. Carolina, so that's what is being kept until further documentation proves otherwise. -- [[Fiscus-32|Fiscus-32]] 17:54, 19 November 2015 (EST) Did Nathaniel (the son of John) marry 23 Aug 1852 in Pike County to Faitha Wood?<ref>"Alabama, County Marriages, 1809-1950", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRJB-6HP : 16 July 2015), Nathaniel S Fowler and Faitha Wood, 1852.</ref> If so, his middle initial was 'S'.

== Sources ==
<references />* "United States Census, 1840," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHB4-F31 : 24 August 2015), John W Fowler, Pike, Alabama, United States; citing p. 361, NARA microfilm publication M704, (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 12; FHL microfilm 2,334.

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4/14/2023 at 1:51 PM

Errors crept in. Will ask for unmerge of https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=82730005300

4/14/2023 at 1:52 PM

John W. Fowler, II MP
Gender: Male
Birth: 1798
Georgetown, Winyah, South Carolina, United States
Death: 1860 (61-62)
Pike County, Alabama, United States
Place of Burial: Pike, Alabama, United States
Immediate Family:
Son of John Fowler, Sr. and Elizabeth Fowler (Rackley)
Husband of Elizabeth Lee Fowler (Davis)
Father of Lewis Fowler; Rebecca Ann Sellers (Fowler); Penelope Hearn (Fowler); James Spivey Fowler; John T. Fowler and 16 others
Brother of Samuel Fowler; William Fowler; Charlotte Fowler; Caraline Fowler; Beaman Fowler and 25 others

4/14/2023 at 1:52 PM

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