List of Managers - Bug or ??

Mike Stangel - If there is a good reason Geni now always shows my name first when I am Manager of the profile I am looking at - and I assume similarly/correspondingly for others --
could you please consider bolding and/or showing the primary manager in a different color, so we can again easily see who is primary manager when looking at a profile?

I’ve been wondering how I suddenly became “first listed” manager of profiles. I think I understand the reasoning: not everyone looks “above” to see they already manage. For my (usual) tree areas the visual probably doesn’t matter, but I can see where a “bold” would be helpful in a smaller list.

We do some intelligent ordering of the managers so as to inform you why you do (or do not) have privileges on the profile. For example, if you're listed first or if a collaborator is listed first (as identified by the double-green horizontal arrows after their name) for pulbic profiles, or a family group member for private profiles, then you're going to have full permissions on the profile. Otherwise, your permissions will be limited to basic access on public profiles, or no access on private profiles.

I'm okay with the suggestion to bold the primary manger... we'll release that later today.

Just saw “bold” primary manager on a profile with a three manager list, and he wasn’t listed “furthest to the left.” So bolding that name is informative. I think this enhancement will be helpful. Thank you.

I just want to say thank you for implementing this very good idea.

I stil wish the list of managers is removed from the front page of the profile. We still have way too many people spending a lot of time getting their names on the profiles instead of doing genealogy.

What power does the primary manager have that other managers don't?

Leanne -- only the Primary Manager can invite someone to be Primary Manager. I have sent geni-messages asking if folks would like to be primary Manager of their Parent, etc - would be very embarrassed to make the offer, then find out I could not deliver.

Search results in Geni show Primary Manager to folks as the manager - have had at least one instance where that resulted in someone believing I was the one should know the most and be the most responsible for that profile - so I prefer to know, and perhaps be a bit more aware of those profiles.

In Geni-search, if one chooses to refine the search results by choosing Managed by You instead of All of Geni -- this will just be profiles where you are Primary Manager - and similarly, in one's Merge Center "Managed by Me" just refers to ones where one is Primary Manager -- so sometimes it is useful when using these to know whether one is primary or not.

The above are the main reasons I like to know. However - Another "power" Primary Manager has is that it is the choices made by the Primary Manager in their Account Settings "Managed Profiles" that apply to the profile.

Where there is a very large number of managers - think but am not sure - Primary Manager is likely to get all notices about the profile - some others might not.
When request sent to Master a Living Profile - does that go to all Managers, or ??
In Public Discussions, have many times seen comments indicating Primary Manager should get to choose - as if poster thought Primary Manager meant 'in charge' - but I think that may be happening less now - not sure have seen it recently.

Possibly other differences will occur to me, or other folks can supply some. But at the moment, these are the differences I can think of.

Hi Lois,
Re "In Geni-search, if one chooses to refine the search results by choosing Managed by You instead of All of Geni -- this will just be profiles where you are Primary Manager"
I don't think that is correct. When I do this I get all profiles I manage not just ones that I am primary.

Re "and similarly, in one's Merge Center "Managed by Me" just refers to ones where one is Primary Manager "
I don't think that is correct. When I do this I get all profiles I manage not just ones that I am primary.

Re "Where there is a very large number of managers - think but am not sure - Primary Manager is likely to get all notices about the profile - some others might not. "
I don't think this is correct. I get messages where I am not primary.

There must be a technical difference otherwise why are we identifying the primary. Mike Stangel, can you please advise what is the difference between a Primary Manager and a non Primary Manager.

Leanne --
Re "In Geni-search, if one chooses to refine the search results by choosing Managed by You instead of All of Geni -- this will just be profiles where you are Primary Manager"
-- -- I explicitly tested that one, with an infrequent surname in my family, before posting - when I restricted to Managed by You, the one I was looking at where I was co-Manager, not Primary, disappeared from the list. After reading your response, tested again, this time noting two - both disappeared.
--If someone else is Primary, their name will appear under Manager in search results - are you actually seeing Profiles with someone else's name under Managed By when you restrict search results to Managed By You? If so, then this may be a difference between Curator and nonCurator -- see you have already tagged Mike, so possibly he will let us know.

Re "and similarly, in one's Merge Center "Managed by Me" just refers to ones where one is Primary Manager " -- so, double-checked, and again - profile showing in list for "Followed by Me" where I am coManager, not Primary - does not show in list for "Managed by Me"

The info that for both those lists - and also for Lists under Family - that "Managed By" was taken to mean "Primary Manager is" - came originally from Mike. At that time he also assured us left-most listed Manager was Primary Manager, and that changed - but these have not changed for me!!

Re "Where there is a very large number of managers - think but am not sure - Primary Manager is likely to get all notices about the profile - some others might not. "
PLEASE NOTE: I did not say none of the others would be notified. Where there is asmall list of Managers, think maybe we all usually get notified of changes, etc I recall seeing a discussion where Mike explained how Geni decided how many / which managers to notify - but a) do not recall exact details and b) it could have changed. My guess - Curators in the Manager list will be notified (both because they are Curators And because they are probably among the most active and most recently online if either of those are among the criteria)

I will wait til Mike lets us know.