Czechia in Western Europe?

Started by Judith Berlowitz on Tuesday, May 7, 2019
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5/7/2019 at 4:08 PM

Why is it there? Can you please move it?

Private User
5/7/2019 at 5:10 PM

I have no idea why you sent this to me.

Private User
5/7/2019 at 5:22 PM

To "Eastern Europe"? I'm often telling people Czechia is often "unfairly" thought of as in Eastern Europe, mainly because it was behind the Iron Curtain, but culturally, historically, technologically and in terms of modernity c. pre-WWII, it was much more part of Western Europe. As a throw-away line in such conversations, I'd point out Prague is west of Vienna, and nobody says Vienna is not in Western Europe.

5/7/2019 at 6:21 PM

Well... if you look on a map, the western part of the country is between Germany and Austria, and the eastern half is tucked between Poland and Slovakia. I think it's more likely in Central Europe, although the UN considers Czechia to be in Eastern Europe. And while Prague is very modern and is located in the "west," it may be that the language and culture as well as the location of the country dictate otherwise.

(Btw, why was this sent to me?)

5/7/2019 at 6:46 PM

Czechs has always been in Central Europe, as far as I know.

Private User
5/7/2019 at 7:06 PM

Of course, the best is to place Czechia in Central Europe.

5/7/2019 at 7:46 PM

Judith I am not part of this discussion.

5/7/2019 at 8:10 PM

I am not part of this discussion either. Not sure why I got an email for it.
Pleaee remove me from it. Thank you.

5/7/2019 at 8:38 PM

Since when does the UN know what they are doing? Czechia is in Central Europe

5/7/2019 at 11:03 PM

Czech Republic is in Central Europe. Only between 1948 and 1989 Czechoslowakia was under the Soviet Rule and in the "Eastern Block".

5/7/2019 at 11:43 PM

I would consuder it more a Central European country.

5/8/2019 at 12:18 AM

I think that the "Central" vs. the others is quite dynamic, and even rural people can be surprising. Neighbors in the same building have widely varied views, frames of reference and behavior.

5/8/2019 at 5:48 AM

Tomas Kitlar is spot on. It is Central Europe, and the confusion only arose when it was ruled by the Soviets.

5/8/2019 at 7:18 AM

For those wondering why you were notified of this discussion, it's because you are following the Jewish Genealogy Portal project.

Private User
5/9/2019 at 7:19 AM

Dear Mike,

I also don't understand why the Jewish Genealogy Portal project are together with the Check one....

But I would like to discuss all the problems of the genealogy in Jews comunitie ...Who are jews ? Only the son or daughter of a jews mother ? Or also so was "converted (including religious X liberals) ?

Of course you know what is the meaning of "cristãos novos" in Brazil ? Are this people jews ?

I will see in the project Portal will appear same explanations...Thanks by the new Congress next september in Amsterdan...I hope to go...and also Rendy Schoenberg will go ?

Yours, thanking your great attention in Oslo...

@ Franklin Kuperman, São Paulo, Brazil

5/9/2019 at 8:24 AM

Hi Franklin,

I do not purport to decide who can call themselves a Jew, or who should join the Jewish Genealogy Portal. You all may self-select, please.....

6/23/2019 at 8:00 AM

I believe the answer was that I followed the JewishGen database structure at the time when I set this up. We can correct it. Jewish genealogy means someone in the ancestry is Jewish, that's all. I will not be in Amsterdam, but will be in at the conference in Cleveland in a month.

6/24/2019 at 8:20 AM

I don't understand the discussion. In any case, I don't like the latest division in the Jewish Genealogy Portal where Czechia and Slovenia are now combined with the Balkan countries under the umbrella term Central / Southern Europe at all. Which division of Europe would we like to have? A political, a cultural, or a geographical one? If a geographical one, then (in today's borders) Central Europe also includes Poland, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Hungary and Slovakia. If a cultural, then Czechia, Slovenia, Germany, Switzerland and Austria clearly belongs to Western Europe (Poland and Hungary with Slovakia only because of the cultural traditions from the historical borders of the kingdoms Poland and Hungary not). If political, then we have to decide whether we (like the UN) have to assume a temporary division of Europe by the Iron Curtain, or an order that has existed for hundreds of years. If we assume an order that has existed for hundreds of years, then Central Europe consists of the successor states of the Holy Roman Empire, i.e. present-day Germany, Czechia, Austria and Slovenia.

6/25/2019 at 11:25 AM

how do you get to the brenner tree or brenner relatives? My grandmother was a Brenner
prior to her marriage. Her brother was Isaac Brenner. I would like to know where he is buried.

Gladys Propper

6/25/2019 at 2:20 PM

re: Brenner

Please add what you know to your tree and I will try to help you.

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