Jakub Wronko - Sources for Judaism Proof before Conversion

Started by Sarah Grace Miller on Wednesday, March 27, 2019
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3/27/2019 at 4:00 AM

@JakubWronko is my 4th great grandfather on my mother's side. I'm looking for proof of the claim that Jakub was Jewish and converted to Catholic. If it helps his father and mother names are Pawel Wronko and Marianna Nogalska but that is as far back as I can go on his side .

3/27/2019 at 7:05 AM

Thank you very much for that additional info. Sorry to disappoint, but the Nazis did a great job at destroying everything Jewish, so there are no synagogue records, and Poland itself is not very good at keeping records before the year 1800. There are other indicators that point to them being converts to Catholicism. Jakub and Rozalia's daughter, my ggg grandmother, Teofila, this name was a name given to someone when a conversion took place, and means "friend of God". The surname Wronko is actually found in Lars Menk's Dictionary of German Jewish Surnames, and that name you gave me Nogalska is a Yiddish rendering of the German name Nagel. German Nagel=Yiddish Nogl. Finally, my gg grandmother Franszeska Wronko's cousin Adam Wronko in Grand Rapids signed a WWI Draft Registration Card as "Adom", another Yiddish rendering of Adam, and his mother's maiden name was Konozi (Ashkenazi). Franszeska and my great great grandfather Konstanty Reda named their youngest daughter Esther.

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3/27/2019 at 2:04 PM

Dear Ezra, I have found that you claim that most of your ancestors are Jewish, but the point that they were Jewish seems to always be before there are records.
I can't comment on the case of Jakub Wronko, but you claimed this to be the case for many of your ancestors living on the island of Tholen, Zeeland, The Netherlands and you regularly make connections that have not been there.
It is still very common for people in Western Europe to give their children Biblical names that long have become family names (like Jacob, Esther, etc.). This can't be seen as proof that the people are of Jewish origin.

3/30/2019 at 1:11 PM

Yes, as I already stated, I have no actual synagogue records, but there are other indicators that lead me to believe that many of these ancestors, whether from Poland, Zeeland or Friesland came from converso Ashkenazi and Sephardic, and even French Huguenot backgrounds. I base this on my historical, etymological, and other research and most of it yes, is circumstantial evidence, but there is also a lot of DNA testing I have done. Whether someone does not agree with it is not my issue and not my problem. It's my tree and if I wanted to state that they were martians that's what I'll do.

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