"Jonathan Osbourne" - Jonathan Osborne and Gretta Hollman

Need a primary source for this, or a good Y DNA study.

You can find a Y DNA on line at Family Tree DNA-Osborn
Also OsborneOrigins.org (but they have moved over to Family Tree

On the line for those who descend from Thomas Osborne 1595 and Mary Goatley
they will be listed under Thomas Osborne from Kent. Which is Ashford, Kent, England.

You can go under Thomas Osborne from Kent and look for the following two numbers.

63562

63562 is a 12 marker test that means it goes back 15 generations

I am sending this message separate from the other number because I have to go out of Geni to get it and I will probably loose this when I go out....

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The above is the link for you. You are in Hollo group 04. And fall under the group Thomas Osborne from Kent, England (they should have put Ashford, Kent, England.
His name is Highlighted in green

The number you want to look for is Under Thomas Osborne's name # 63562
here are his DNA numbers:
13-24-15-12-12-14-12-12-12-13-13-29

The above numbers covers 15 generations directly on your John Osborne and M. Rebecca Hand line the son of Thomas Osborne 1595 and his wife Mary Goatley.
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13-24-15-12-12-14-12-12-12-13-13-29

18- 9-10-11-11-25-15-19=19=15=15=17=17=11=11=19=23=16-15-19-19-37-38-12-12-

11- 09-15=16- 8-10-10- 8-10=10-12-23-23-16-10-12-12-16- 8-12-22-20-13-13-11-13-

11-11-12-12-35-15- 9- 16-12-24-26-19-12-11-14-12-10- 9-12-12-10-11-11-30-12-13-

24-13-10-10-22-15-19-13-24-17-12-15-24-12-23-18- 9-15-17- 9-12-11
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This is the line that also descends from Thomas Osborne and Mary Goatleys line which is Stephens line.

this covers 64 generations and if there is a variance it "must" fall within the high and low range.

Unfortunately the shorter one was only 15 generations. However, there are researchers way ahead of you on their genealogy. And it is a matter of knowing who you are related to and connecting to their lines.

As you will notice that the first 12 numbers for the (# 63562) matches the first 12 numbers in the other test for (#31904). They both descend from Thomas Osborne born 1595 that married Mary Goatley. (#63562) is a descendant from Thomas's son John that married Mariam Rebecca Hand. While (#31904) is a descendant from Stephen Osborne that married Sarah Stansborough. If you go into the OsborneOrigins.org web site you will want to click on some of the other pages to bring up a hand written chart. It will show the generation and just where the family ties together and where it separates. The key issue about doing the DNA is that you really want to do more than 12 marker test. As our research progresses and goes back so much farther, you will want to go beyond 15 generations. Keep in mind that when you start checking out the numbers on the marker test that when you find a mutation that is when you should check the scale for the high and the low range where the mutation begins. For those of you who have a DNA I hope you will register your DNA with the OSBORNE project. Don't worry about the spelling of the name. People born before us couldn't spell most of the time!

DNA has shown us that the descendants of Ephraim Osborne and Elizabeth Howard are related to John Osborne b. 1631 and Mariam Rebecca Hand. It has also proven that their descendants are relate to the Stephen Osborne b. 1634 the brother of John Osborne. The only problem in your line is the information given about James Osborne being married to Ann Carter, and his son Jonathan Osborne that married Gretta Holman. Did they exist. Of Course they did! The main problem is where were they born! John Osborne and Mariam already had young children in the United States under the age of 11 when James was born. I highly doubt that James and Jonathan were born in England. What I believe is that the researcher that was hired by Attorney Will Daniels miss-spoke! Possibly meaning that the WOMEN were born there! In research I did find James married to Sarah, with no last name given. Another record showed Sarah Gatley. However, I believe that her name was more like Goatley. Spelling back then was no a strong point of people with little education. John Osborne the father of James, married Mary Goatley. And I believe that James might have married a cousin. We do not know yet how many times James was married. So I can not rule out Ann Carter at this point. I am waiting to get into the Newberry Library in Chicago. This is a genealogy library with a lot of great resources and professional genealogist there as well. This age old question has been going on since 1930.

DNA has shown us that the descendants of Ephraim Osborne and Elizabeth Howard are related to John Osborne b. 1631 and Mariam Rebecca Hand. It has also proven that their descendants are relate to the Stephen Osborne b. 1634 the brother of John Osborne. The only problem in your line is the information given about James Osborne being married to Ann Carter, and his son Jonathan Osborne that married Gretta Holman. Did they exist. Of Course they did! The main problem is where were they born! John Osborne and Mariam already had young children in the United States under the age of 11 when James was born. I highly doubt that James and Jonathan were born in England. What I believe is that the researcher that was hired by Attorney Will Daniels miss-spoke! Possibly meaning that the WOMEN were born there! In research I did find James married to Sarah, with no last name given. Another record showed Sarah Gatley. However, I believe that her name was more like Goatley. Spelling back then was no a strong point of people with little education. John Osborne the father of James, married Mary Goatley. And I believe that James might have married a cousin. We do not know yet how many times James was married. So I can not rule out Ann Carter at this point. I am waiting to get into the Newberry Library in Chicago. This is a genealogy library with a lot of great resources and professional genealogist there as well. This age old question has been going on since 1930.

DNA has shown us that the descendants of Ephraim Osborne and Elizabeth Howard are related to John Osborne b. 1631 and Mariam Rebecca Hand. It has also proven that their descendants are relate to the Stephen Osborne b. 1634 the brother of John Osborne. The only problem in your line is the information given about James Osborne being married to Ann Carter, and his son Jonathan Osborne that married Gretta Holman. Did they exist. Of Course they did! The main problem is where were they born! John Osborne and Mariam already had young children in the United States under the age of 11 when James was born. I highly doubt that James and Jonathan were born in England. What I believe is that the researcher that was hired by Attorney Will Daniels miss-spoke! Possibly meaning that the WOMEN were born there! In research I did find James married to Sarah, with no last name given. Another record showed Sarah Gatley. However, I believe that her name was more like Goatley. Spelling back then was no a strong point of people with little education. John Osborne the father of James, married Mary Goatley. And I believe that James might have married a cousin. We do not know yet how many times James was married. So I can not rule out Ann Carter at this point. I am waiting to get into the Newberry Library in Chicago. This is a genealogy library with a lot of great resources and professional genealogist there as well. This age old question has been going on since 1930.