Benjamin Norden, Snr. SV/PROG 2 - John Phillips 1820 Settler

Any available information on the country and/or port of departure and the approximate date?

Hi Hermanus
Thanks for your responce !
John PHILLIPS is my g.g.g.g. grandfather. From various online sources it states that he boarded the ship La Belle Alliance, but the ship only sailed a month later afer a delay of the Thames being ice-bound. It left the Downs on 12th February, 1820 arriving in Table Bay 2 May and Simon's Bay three days later.
However, I recently found this . . .
I have a copy from Ancestors Project, Center of Family History and Genealogy in Nottinghamsire, England. It is from a collection called Shipping Agents' List which arrived on a ship in Sydney 6 oct, 1848. It is an insert documenting vessels that sailed to South Africa in 1820 . . .
JOHN PHILLIPS
Male; Age 19; Ship Belle Alliance; Commander's name Rolfe.
Events: Arrival 2 June 1820 to South Africa; Place Table Bay.
The document states that this individual is in Wilson's Party.
Archive: Nottinghamshire Archives.

I am trying to establish if Norden was asked to "keep an eye" on John Phillips. Were they part of the same group?? This is just a "feeling" that I have.
Any help or info would be greatly appreciated.
Kind regards.
Jen.

Your information on his departure from the Downs and arrival at the Cape of Good Hope is correct.

See the following links:

John’s profile on geni.com: https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/5647415879470023390
John’s profile on 1820settlers.com (including names of children and both wives: https://www.1820settlers.com/genealogy/getperson.php?personID=I8242...
Willson’s 1820 Settler party: https://www.1820settlers.com/genealogy/settlershowparty.php?party=W...
List of Nordens who arrived on the same ship: https://www.1820settlers.com/genealogy/settlersearch.php?mylastname...

Hope this points you in a useful direction.

Kind regards

Herman

Good morning Herman,
Thank you for your quick reply once again.
I have a very extensive family tree for my John Phillips.1820 and feel fairly comfortable with the info being correct . . . it has taken me over 11 years!!
What I don"t have is any info of John Phillips family prior to 1820 - they just do not want to show themselves!! I have been very fortunate in gaining help from various geneologiest, but no one to date has been able to demolish this "brickwall". . .
Should you ever come across anything - please contact me :)
Kind regards.
Jen