Query on Duplicate - Anna MUHLHOFER

Started by Private User on Saturday, February 2, 2019
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There was a request to merge these two profiles

Netti Löwy
* born 1851
* died 6/8/1900
* no parents
* wife of Max Löwy

Anna / Nanette Hoffmann
* born 1836
* daughter of Mihaly / Michael Milhofer and Fani / Hani Milhofer
* no spouses

I removed the requested merge as there is 15 years difference in the date of birth and no other information was the same.

Can anyone add any more information on either family?

Hi Leanne -

I worked on this exact family all day today, and ran into the same merge issue and various other questions to be resolved.

I agree with you that the merge request of Netti Löwy b. 1851 and Anna Mühlhofer b. 1836 should be denied. I did some work over the last 24-48 hours with the user who suggested it; I believe he was right about a crucial merge and wrong about this one.

Very briefly, there was definitely a Max Löwy (1845-1903) married to Anna Mühlhofer (1851-1900); Geni user Mark Milhofer sent me a photo he took this week of their gravestone, which I posted.

There was a conundrum involving various similar records of Max Löwy and Anna Mühlhofer and one "Netti" Mühlhofer. It seemed fairly apparent that "Anna" was "Netti," but I refrained from that merge until I saw the gravestone photo. It describes the tragic death of a granddaughter, age 14, hit by a streetcar. Her unusual name, Adrienne Anna Lampel, led to a birth record listing her parents as Sidonie Löwy Lampel and Jakob Lampel, and Sidonie's parents were listed as Max and "Netti Mühlhofer" Löwy. I regarded this as confirmation that Anna (on the stone and some records) and "Netti" (on other records) were one and the same. Work by Rina Talmore bolstered that assumption.

However, I found no information regarding the parentage of either Max Löwy or Anna/Netti Mühlhofer. (Any help would be appreciated!)

Either way, I agree that an Anna Mühlhofer born in 1836 (I find no record of such a person) is not pertinent to the family described above.

I was able to track extensive branches of this family and in-laws, to England and all over the US – so it was a busy day....

Best wishes,

Fred Barton

Although many of the names appear to have a Hungarian twist, none seem to have left a paper trail in the Hungarian archives. The only item I did find was in an Austrian newspaper. It suggests that the death date given for Max Lowy on 3 Feb 1900 could be the wrong Max Lowy. If you study the death notice for that Max on this link, none of the children in it seem to match those in the Geni profiles.

http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?aid=nfp&datum=19030205&a...

Hi Roy - The Max Löwi in the death notice you just referred to is a different Max Löwy than the one we were discussing, according to the following pros and cons:

Pro: The first name is the same and the death date is close (Feb. 3 for Max Löwy, Feb. 4 for Max Löwi, according to the Index of the Jewish Records of Vienna and Lower Austria

Con:

1. The Max Löwy on the gravestone was definitely born in 1845 ("gest. am 3 Februar 1903 im 58. Lebensjahre," as opposed to the 1828 birthdate of Max Löwi in that death notice ("im 75. Lebensjahre").

2. Max Löwy's wife was definitely Anna Mühlhofer, as per the gravestone; Max Löwi's wife was Caroline as per the death notice

3. Max Löwy's children have birth records in the Index of the Jewish Records of Vienna and Lower Austria, and as you say, none of them match the children of Max Löwi, whose children were likely born a generation earlier, as was he.

Here's the death notice for Caroline Löwi, wife of Max Löwi:

http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=nfp&datum=...

Here's the death notice for Jenni Löwi Versändig, daughter of Max Löwi and Caroline (her husband's name is "Abraham" in their marriage record):

http://anno.onb.ac.at/cgi-content/anno?apm=0&aid=nfp&datum=...

And I'm 99% sure this entire family is one I had branched recently, now subject to all kinds of available verification, thanks to the death notice you referenced:

https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000086924633821

So, thanks for inadvertently helping me with this family!

Best wishes,

Fred

You must admit that having 2 Austrian Max Lowi -Lowys dying within a day of each other is rather unusual. I found a death notice for Anna Muhlhofer, but if that was the wrong Max, there may be a death notice for the other Max as well.

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