William B Hale - Ancestry of William B Hale, b. 1801

Erica Howton, your suggestions would be most welcome.

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William B Hale
in the Virginia, Deaths and Burials Index, 1853-1917
Name: William B Hale
Birth Date: abt 1800
Birth Place: Richmond
Death Date: 12 Jul 1861
Death Place: Richmond, Virginia
Death Age: 61
Race: White
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
FHL Film Number: 2048582
Source Information
Ancestry.com. Virginia, Deaths and Burials Index, 1853-1917 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2011.

Original data:
"Virginia Deaths and Burials, 1853–1912." Index. FamilySearch, Salt Lake City, Utah, 2010. Index entries derived from digital copies of original and compiled records.

The marriage you already have

He has one slave in the 1840 Census, that gives you an avenue to pursue.

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Richmond_County,_Virginia_Gene...

A Headley genealogy book

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/617288?availability=Fam...

Church records Farnham Parish?

Be sure to look for alternate spellings: Hail, Hall.

Farnham Parish is early, I’m going to guess his family was always there. watch me be wrong. :)

Thanks for the research hints.

I already looked at Virginia vital records, but birth records begin 1853 so I didn't find anything. The North Farnham Parish records didn't seem to have him either. Rootsweb ditto. I looked in wills and probate -- doesn't seem to have been mentioned by any of them. :-(

The Headley family history is interesting, although I already have a couple of Headley worksheets stolen from other people's sites that I've been using, so unless the Headley book goes "afield" and lists parents of William I won't get far. But maybe I can order it through the local library and see what it's got.

Your guess is as good as mine as to where he comes from. I know that "Hale" goes all the way back to Jamestown as a surname in Virginia, so I'd not be surprised if this guy has quite a pedigree. But it's all obscure at the moment.

Church records for North Farnham. There are archive.org books. Probate records. Land! Library of Virginia online. He’s a farmer with X acres; try and plot out the location - work backwards from the 1860. If he bought there’s a record. If he inherited there’s a record. There should be records on the slave also.

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/North_Farnham_Parish,_Virginia

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/Farnham_Parish,_Virginia

Guess what: he was not born in Richmond County, at least according to the registers. That's interesting right there. And it wasn't just that he wasn't logged -- there are *no* Hales at all in either registry. (There are three "Heal" births, back in the early 1700's, and that's all.) Do you see anything different?

And, FWIW, these were recorded in the town of Warsaw, which is where Mr. Hale supposedly raised his family and his children appear in the 1850 census. Did he go to an alternate church? What's going on here?

Do you have a link to what you’re looking at?

I don’t see anyone from this family listed here

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/hale-family-finder-proj/about/...

I just paged through the North Farnham and Farnham Parish records; they're arranged alphabetically. No Hales to be found!

The Warsaw VA came from a web tree. It's consistent with the graveyard where William B's wife is buried (Georgeanna Rock), which is a few miles away.

I took the easy route touring Virginia

https://www.virginia.org/listings/HistoricSites/RichmondCountyCourt...

Established in 1692, when old Rappahannock County was divided, Richmond County's seat was simply named Richmond County Courthouse, and was located along the shore of the Rappahannock River. In 1730, it was moved inland to the intersection of the major crossroads of the Northern Neck, and in 1748, the present Palladian style Courthouse was built. In 1831, the name of the town was changed to Warsaw in sympathy with the Polish struggle for independence.

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So you want to look in Old Rappahonack, a place I wish auto correct would memorize already.

https://www.familysearch.org/wiki/en/(Old)_Rappahannock_County,_Vir...

A vast generalization: his family didn’t move but the county lines did.

Hmm, interesting. Only marriages are available, so I looked for marriages within 10 years of 1790, and found something:

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?_phsrc=yie2764&_phs...

John Haile and Mary Dix, m. 1784. Best lead I've got, but it's pretty conjectural without a birth record... Still...

I'm willing to take the leap and guess that William was born in what's now Essex County. That would explain the lack of records on the north side of the river. There do not seem to be any records for Hales in that time period at all in North Farnham, Farnham, or Richmond counties, and it appears that Warsaw would have been in one of those. But it was never in Essex county, that's for sure. ;-)

If he was born outside Richmond County, how did he acquire his farm?

Well, I looked through Virginia land records and wills, and he's not mentioned in either place. Maybe it came via his wife?

Then it would be in her will or her father’s will (Probate). Even back further: I’ve found ancestors from grand children’s Probate notes.

I see his son was buried in a Baptist Cemetery, may be why he’s not in church records so far. This is that church history:

http://www.familyhistory.bryantdameron.com/totuskey.html

What jumped at me was the name “Robert Sydnor, Sr.” I used to be related to the Sydnors until I disproved it. So see where their land was.

And would you look at that ... same site

http://familyhistory.bryantdameron.com/moseshale.html

Moses Hale was most likely born in Northumberland County. Some unsourced family trees state that he was born April 11th, 1786.
On the 1810 census Moses Hale was listed as the head of a family in Northumberland. Household members were one male 16-25, one female over 40 and one slave. The woman may have been Moses' mother.

Moses married Margaret Headley on October 13th, 1813 in Northumberland County. They went on to have six childre

https://books.google.com/books?id=NPV7vJVQ-GoC&lpg=PA44&ots...

Moses Hale & Margaret Headley are the earliest Hales in the Northumberland County book so far

https://books.google.com/books?id=NPV7vJVQ-GoC&lpg=PA44&vq=...

James S. Hale sec for the marriage, he’s also sec. for the 1806 Marriage of William Garner & Nancy Self.

(I’ve reached limit when searching on Headley but there are some besides Margaret).

Hah -- remember when I said I'd run into another Hale? That was Moses. His wife is first cousin once removed from William's:

Moses Hale

I created his tree, best I could, from what was around. No listing available of children. The relationship between his wife and William's is clear.

The guy 16-25 in his house in 1810 can't be William, but it could be a sibling of both Moses and William.

I see the possibility that one of Moses' brothers is William's father. But the earliest marriage bond listed is 1806 and William was born in 1801. James is bonded, but twin brother John doesn't appear at all, and neither does brother Benjamin. So it could be either of those two. Let me see if there are birth records for either one's children...

And if you read the notes for Moses Hale b 1817, in 1850 he’s living in the same Stony Hill post office in Farnham Parish, Richmond County, as William B.

http://familyhistory.bryantdameron.com/moseshale1817.html

If they’re not double related I’ll eat ... pizza.

It’s a crazy long shot but there’s a George Heale, gent., of Lancaster County way back. I looked through his descent and it seems to have daughtered out. But ...

Hmm, I just noticed that the security for William B Hale's marriage bond is an Edward Barnes. I wonder if his mother is a Barnes? Then his full name might well be William Barnes Hale.

You're right that Moses and William B *must* be related. William B's daughter-in-law wouldn't be in the same place otherwise in 1870. But how are they related????

Here’s the John Fortunatus Sydnor mentioned as father of Nancy, who married the 2nd Moses Hale. Tree abandoned.

http://familyhistory.bryantdameron.com/nancysydnor1815.html

Notice his grand daughter married a Self.

The Baptist preacher who baptized in that era & area

http://www.tribune.org/lewis-lunsford/