Arie Willemsz van Wyk, a2b1c2d1 - What is the reason for the Curator Note on this profile?

The direct proof of his parents can be found on/in VC654 (Drakenstein baptisms) p145 - unfortunately other sources are obscure and I am not sure how to locate that document online, but I am sure someone more familiar with that could link it quickly?

Here he is mentioned as the first child of Gerrit - this Gerrit: Gerrit Ariesz van Wijk, b1c2

SOURCE:

http://databases.tanap.net/mooc/main_article.cfm?id=MOOC8%2F10%2E35...

(all of that Gerrit's children)

Furthermore his own DN can be found 10 June 1798 but again I am not sure how to locate it online.

Who is this no name wife that has been added: (No Name) and daughter Maria Magdalena van Steenkamp?

Arji Willemsz van Wyk son of Gerrit Ariesz van Wijk, b1c2 only has one child though, and no other wives than Elisabeth Viljoen.

http://www.ballfamilyrecords.co.uk/kfp/I041.html

''No name'' happens if you add child without a parent

Yes, I think that's it - but the daughter isn't sourced either, so can't figure out what validates the mother's existence.

Be adviced that I will report everything that could harm my good name. I'm not very happy with the way things are going.

? Mike Stangel

Let's please take this back to the curator discussion. Private User the question is perfectly valid and you need to answer it.

Private User The death notice of Arji Willemsz van Wyk you mentioned doesn't give us much information. Only his name, age and the DOD I will attach it to his profile.

Sharon Doubell I am still looking for other sources. I'll probably only get to that by this weekend.

Could Maria Magdalena van Steenkamp and Maria Magdalena van Wijk Steenkamp, a2b1c2d1e3 not be the same person?

I will attach the death notice of Maria Magdalena van Wijk Steenkamp, a2b1c2d1e3 to her profile.

Re above 3rd name Elizabeth not mentioned in the baptismal record.
Maria Magdalena
Baptised: 1768, den 16 October
Father: Arij Willemsz van Wijk
Mother: Elisabeth Viljoen
Witnesses: Gerrit Matthys van Wijk, en Jacomina van Wijk

Anything else I need to try and find?

Private User Baptismal record of Arie Willemsz van Wyk, a2b1c2d1 attached to his profile. Parents Gerrit van Wyk and Magdalena Eijkhof

Not quite sure but are these not the same person?
Arji Willemsz van Wyk
and
Arji Willemsz van Wyk

I am 100% sure his fathers name will be Willem van Wyk. The reason is that his second name, "Willemsz" with the "z" added shows that he was the son of Willem. That was normal for that time.
As for proof of sources thank you Private User and Jan Bloemrus for looking for valid sources.

Judi

Private my pleasure, let me know if there should be any other source documents I should try and find.

Please join the project: https://www.geni.com/projects/van-Wyk-Genealogy-of-South-Africa/47489 if you haven't already - it being used to decide a template for geni around the latest Richard Balls findings.

(No Name) is a profile that has been created that has been called "(No Name)".

In other parts of Geni you would probably see "unknown wife" or "unknown mother" or "NN"

Take a closer look, - the name field is empty, so the displayed name will be whatever the translation into your language for unknown is.
"unknown wife" is introducing a fabricated fact that they were married and locked to the specific language it is written in.

Hi Bjorn, I wasn't trying to suggest they were married. I was just saying that in other parts of the tree that is what I would see in the name field.

The baptismal record I posted previously should clear the (No Name) issue up though as it clearly states the name of both parents.

Charmaine wasn't that a record for one of the Aries?

This question is about the parents of Maria Magdalena Wijk van Steenkamp who was recently added here.

I added both, her baptismal record and her death notice too. see earlier post.
Could Maria Magdalena van Steenkamp (Wijk) and Maria Magdalena Elizabeth Steenkamp (van Wyk), a2b1c2d1e3 not be the same person?

I will attach the death notice of Maria Magdalena Elizabeth Steenkamp (van Wyk), a2b1c2d1e3 to her profile.

The record added should also clear up her (no name) mother.

Re above 3rd name Elizabeth not mentioned in the baptismal record.
Maria Magdalena
Baptised: 1768, den 16 October
Father: Arij Willemsz van Wijk
Mother: Elisabeth Viljoen
Witnesses: Gerrit Matthys van Wijk, en Jacomina van Wijk

So, if you look at my posts you'll see I added both Arie and her baptismal and death records. So both parent issues should theoretically be solved.

see: https://media.geni.com/p13/bb/a1/4f/8c/53444849a3447bc9/maria_magda...
and
https://media.geni.com/p13/bb/42/3d/7e/53444849a3398045/maria_magda...

Ahh fantastic. I'll go and look.

With regard to this question, Charmaine Labuschagne:
"Not quite sure but are these not the same person?
Arie Willemsz van Wyk, a2b1c2d1
and
Ary Willemsz van Wijk"

Yes, they are - but the one was created prior to Richard Ball's figuring out that there were actually 3 Gerrits van Wyk - (and a couple of different Aries):

1. Gerret van Wyk 1707-c Aug1708
Parents: Arie van Wyk, b1 Cornelia Helm

2. Gerrit Willemsz van Wijk ( d. bef Jan 1738)
Parents: Willem van Wijk, SV/PROG 2 & Trijntjen Hillebrants, SM
x Elizabeth Vivier
xx Marie Prevot

3. Gerrit Ariesz van Wijk, b1c2d c1774
Parents: Arij Willemse van Wijk, a2b1 and Agnitie Antonette Campher
x1738 Maria Magdalena Eckhoff

so, before merging these to we have to be certain of the specific children who apply so we don't inadvertently return the tree to the previously accepted view that that "Gerrit van Wijk was the son of Arie van Wijk and Cornelia Helms; that he was three times married, to Elisabeth Vivier, to Maria Provo and to Maria Magdalena Eekhof; that he produced nineteen children between 1723 and 1764. "

You finding the children’s baptisms helps a lot. Thank you.

Ahh that shows my feeling on the patroniem Willemsz was correct. Thank you.
That makes it easier
2. Gerrit WILLEMSZ so of WILLEM
3. Gerrie ARIESZ son od ARI van Wyk.

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