Libby Medianowsky - Last Name and Birth Surname

Started by Private User on Monday, November 12, 2018
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On Aug. 29, 2018, a version of this profile was merged with one created by Private, and Jonathan chose the values he had for Last Name and Birth Surname, thus changing the Birth Surname from Medianowsky to Medianowsi, and the Last Name from Medianowsky to Levine

Today, Nov. 11, 2018, Private User changed the Last Name to Medianowsky and deleted her Birth Surname, changing it to blank.

Geni has both a Last Name Field and a Birth Surname Field, and the Last Name Field should be used for the Last Name a person used.

On the 1930 Census, Libby's husband is Head, and "Freda Madow" is listed as "Mother-in-law" - ie Libby's mother. This suggests "Madow" or whatever "Madow" may be an Americanization of was probably Libby's Birth Surname - do either of you, or anyone else, have any records to support what should be used as Birth Surname? (aside - Libby's mother used to be a Public Profile, now she and her husband are Private, so I cannot tell what if any evidence is given for their last name, ie for what should be Libby's birth surname)

On the 1930 Census, Libby has the Last Name "Levine". On her Gravestone, displayed as her Profile Photo, she has the Last Name "Levine".
I would think "Levine" should be in her Last Name field.

Oops - today, Nov. 12, 2018.

David ira Snyder has blocked me

Everyone can set their name viewing preferences

https://www.geni.com/account_settings/name_preferences

So if someone chooses to see Birth surname only, they can, without altering what the documents say.

The document (tombstone photo) names her “Liba Levine” and also her Hebrew name, which should be filled in in that language tab.

So far that’s all I see that is supported.

Correction: there are lots of docs attached to her husband, died 1938, three managers but set to private. (Why? Should that be changed?). The docs should be “cite ticked off” to support facts and also added to Libby’s profile.

Erica - Did you look in her Timeline? Did you check out her Media Tab?
On the 1930 Census, her name is given as Libby Levine.
Also on her husbànd's Declaration and Petition, included as Documents for family on her Profile as well as on his.

As to her husband - David actively changed him to private on Aog. 22 of this year. I do not know why. Perhaps he will tell us,

Likely he is paranoid because he thinks if surnames are known he'll become a victim of identity theft.

Jonathan - That comment is totally unworthy of you.

What I have seen for LIBBY's NAMES:

On the 1921 Ship's Manifest for their Arrival in Boston, MA - (Family Name Given Name): LEWIN LIBA

On her husband's Declaration of Intention (1923) and Petition for Naturalization, on both of which his Last Name is given as Levine, his wife is named as "Lefa"

On the 1930 Census she is Libby Levine

On the 1940 Census she is Libbie Levine [document attached to Timeline Event]

On her Gravestone she is named in English as Liba Levine -- her Find-A-Grave Memorial names her as "Liba Medjanowsky Levine" -- and --Index to Deaths In Massachusetts 1941-1945 includes [Levine] Libby (Madou) -- Boston -- 1941 -- Vol 24 -- Page 177 - which is most likely her

So, from 1923 thru 1941 (when she died), we have 7 references to her - all using the last name Levine

Clearly, "Levine" is what should be in the Last Name Field, if that field is used for what the field-name indicates.

Private User - Do you have additional records?
Do you have any records that would indicate that "Levine" is not the correct value for Libby's Last Name?
OR - Do you just prefer to see a woman listed with her Birth Surname - and if that is the case, could you be satisfied by setting your preferences for how names are displayed to you (link provided above by Erica), or is there some reason why you want to insist the Last Name field not be used for the Last Name that Libby went by?

There are four of us who are Managers of Libby's profile - and not a single one of us is within her Max Family.
Jonathan is Libby's nephew's wife's first cousin once removed's wife's second cousin twice removed.
Libby is my second great uncle's nephew's wife's mother.
David is Libby's sister-in-law's third great nephew.

Libby has 67 Claimed Profiles in her Max Family (4 of whom are deceased public profiles, but still claimed - all 4 thanks to Private. Jonathan, is there a reason you purposely chose to create public deceased claimed profiles, instead of reporting them as we are told to do if the owner of a claimed profile has died, thus letting Customer Service unclaim them?).
The 63 living Claimed Profiles, ie geni-users, in Libby's Max Family should, where we are talking style or simply personal preference, have first choice on how information is displayed on her Profile.

Do any of you who are in Libby's Max Family want to comment and/or indicate a preference?

I am a curator so can merge profiles and update their status to deceased if they die.

Why unworthy? Lots of people disbelieve in collaborative genealogy due to paranoia of identity theft when their deceased mothers' maiden names are known. Thus privatization of the deceased.

Private

Curators cannot unclaim profiles, only Geni can. There is admin work they need to do, including releasing any profiles they managed to other family “nearby” and allowing for the deceased profile to be edited.

Would you or Lois please report so they can do this work? Profile view > Actions button > report > reason > deceased, a reference is always good.

I’ll give the help link to this process, which anyone can do, in the next post. It’s not a curating task.

Jonathan - as to why unworthy of you --
your suggestion makes no sense as an honest suggestion because it is Libby's Birth Surname David chose to use (and if he hadn't, it still wouldn't because Libby is not David's mother - not even in his Max Family)
and if you were referring to why he made Libby's husband private - it makes even less sense, because on Geni making a Profile Private does not hide the contents of its Last Name field (nor its Birth Surname field)

Moreover
"paranoid" is pejorative - as is referring to a person's worry as "paranoia" -- and I thought all of us - and especially Curators - were supposed to avoid behaving in that way on Geni --
Would think applying it to a geni-user would count as "offensive" and possibly as promoting hatred towards that individual - both of which are explicitly forbidden in the terms of service.

Ok i apologize.

I'll revert living statuses to living for the deceased profiles and relinquish management of this whole family of nodes.

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