Mary Albertson (Gosby) - It seems Mary may have been a Sutton who married a Gosby and later Albert Albertson

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10/25/2018 at 6:29 PM

According to the book "Descendants of GEORGE AND SARAH TILDEN SUTTON", pp. 2, 6, 14 and 15, I have the following on Mary, wife of Albert Albertson and mother of Nathaniel Albertson (who married Abigail Nicholson):

Mary Sutton
b. ca. 1642 in England
d. 10 January 1720 in Perquimans, NC

The wife of Albert Albertson, Mary (Sutton) Gosby, was born Mary Sutton. She was a widow of John Gosby/Gosbey of Long Island. She was daughter of George Sutton and Sarah Tilden, daughter of Puritan immigrants Nathaniel Tilden and Lydia Huckstep of Scituate, MA.

10/25/2018 at 6:30 PM

The book is available online at http://olddobbers.net/sutton/sutton_george.pdf

Here is my Albertson ancestry: http://family.beacondeacon.com/newby.htm#albertson

10/27/2018 at 11:14 AM

Hi James Arthur Johnson

Can you set up a profile as the 1st husband of Mary Sutton, later Albertson ?

I will look for the family of origin - I know there was a Sutton family who migrated to NC from Scituate, MA, but I’m not sure how proven it is.

Private User Called my attention to this discussion.

10/27/2018 at 11:22 AM

Here are the parents suggested for this Mary. What do we think ?

Sarah Sutton & George Sutton

10/27/2018 at 1:59 PM

George and Sarah (Tilden) Sutton are the parents I have for her at http://family.beacondeacon.com/sutton.htm#suttontilden and my sources are at the top of that page: http://family.beacondeacon.com/sutton.htm

All I have on her first husband is John Gosby/Gosbey of Long Island. Should I create a profile for him and link it to Mary Albertson ?

The problem is that it mistakenly has her as the daughter of John and Mary Gosby.

10/27/2018 at 2:17 PM

Yes, I will disconnect from wrong parents, please create the Godby husband, you can estimate his death date as before the date of her 2nd Marriage.

I don’t object to your source, so my suggestion for technique would be to create a Mary Sutton sister to Sarah Cox and then merge Mary into her. I find this a safer technique to use.

10/27/2018 at 3:05 PM

Here’s a little more Supporting data:

From https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=132&p...

“I believe it was Albert Albertson, not Nicholas "the Swede", who married Mary Sutton, daughter of George & Sarah Tilden Sutton, and the young widow of John Gosby.

“Nathaniel Sutton left a bequest in his will to his "cousin" (nephew wasn't a term used then), John Gosby.

“There was a daughter Mary - Mary Sutton and her father, George, were indicted in Huntington, NY 1660.

“George Sutton and John & Mary Gosby sold their land in NY to James Mills in 1663, who later claimed land rights in NC for "...Geo Sutton and his wife, Nathanl Sutton, Joseph Sutton, Mary Gosby, Eliz Sutton..." Nothing claimed for John Gosby because he didn't live to make it to NC.

“The young widow Mary Sutton Gosby married Albert Albertson 20 Dec. 1668 in Perquimans County, NC.

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Now, was this John Goseby of Huntington LI the son of John Gosby (I’ve seen his death date as 1654, which makes more sense).

And why is there an earlier Mary Sutton in this tree?

10/27/2018 at 3:10 PM

I wasn't allowed to add as a sibling. So, I added John Gosby as a spouse d. before 1668 to Mary Albertson

I hope that works.

10/27/2018 at 3:21 PM

Worked great. John Gosby, Jr.

I forgot I had locked the George Sutton family - added Mary to it & added you as a manager.

It’s a difficult family / Migration but I’m impressed with the research efforts cited.

10/27/2018 at 3:29 PM

I should also reference the “alternative” genealogy for Mary:

From https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=132&p...

Posted: 09 Dec 2014 03:37PM
Classification: Query
Surnames: Albertson, Sutton, Gosbey, Gosby, Tilden, Terhune

“I did also find records that show the Mary that married Albert Albertson was Mary Gosbey, daughter of John Gosby and Mary Bell. And that Albert was her second marriage - but her first was to Albert Terhune. This suggests she was born a Gosbey and not, in fact, born a Sutton and the window of a Gosbey.”

10/27/2018 at 6:44 PM

Looks like “Mary Sutten”, daughter of “Goodman” Sutton, was taken to court in Huntington, Long Island, for “thieving” cloth:

From https://archive.org/stream/huntingtontownre01hunt/huntingtontownre0...

COURT RECORD— TRIAL OF MARY SUTTEN.] [i66o, April 13.]

Aprill the 13 : 1660.

Mary siiten indited to the corte for kepenig and alltaring the property of the goodes of lide higebe and likewise for having corispondence with Mr. Mattnes his negar in pill- faring.

gorge sotton indited likewise of being acesary thare unto is conserning the goods of Lide higbe.

the deposition of mary tites this deponent sayeth when she com to the mell she mete with mary soten which wase a making a cote which the deponent take to be all coten and it was in 2 peses and she asked mary soten what she make that cot of and she sed it was a curtayn and the deponent teke so much notes of it that it was not all to gathar news, .the deposition of Lide higbe this deponent sayeth that she went to her bedestede and found 4 bisketes and she asked

HUNTINGTON TOWN RECORDS. 2$

her dafter mary how thos bisket came thar she sed she colld not tell but mary soteii cam and sed they ware herses but this deponent knoweth not how she com by them and further she testifieth she herd mary soten speke to gorge for bisket sevriall times and he sed he had none about him then she spake to him to bring som the next tim he com and he toulld her it may be he would.

The confession of Mary seton before Mr. Sticklon jonas

wood, thomas wase her waskot wase made of a cote an that her cote was mad parte of a pece of cloth broute out of the tray by her mother and the other parte of a pese of cloth boute of Mr. leverige and likewise she owned that she had a cortayn that was lade higbes but she sed she boroud it and likewise confesed that she never cared it home agayne but sed it wase borent by her fathers menes being at worke nere the fir with his ax strok it in the fiar and so it wase borent in parte and the rest wase throwen a bout the house and so lost she knew not what became of it.

the verdit of the corte thay find threw her own confesion and witnes broitin to the corte it is ordered that Mary seton shall make full satisfackcion for the curtayn detayned acording to the worth of the other curtaynes and that mary soten shall be brout forth the next trayning day and that on to be apinted by the magestrates to proclayme be for the towne the crimes proved against her i. her keping away and alltaring the proparty of the goodes of lide higbee and 2 that she have intesrted and used arguments with a manes sarvant to play the thefe and stell from his mastar that she might be the resever. and the cort se case to find good man seton gilltie in to he up houlld his dafter in so sinful and evell a way and mayn- tayneing her thar in bv arguements of fallshod and for which he is to give publick satisfackcion befor the trayn band next, or this, pay 20 shilling.

{Court Rec. p. 14, 5.)

10/27/2018 at 6:48 PM

Do we need think this John Gosby, Ill was the son of John d bef 1668 and his wife Mary Sutton Gosby?

10/29/2018 at 6:57 AM

It appears so. According to p. 14 of Descendants of GEORGE AND SARAH TILDEN SUTTON (10 Jul 2016), prepared by Martha Mewborn Marble (http://olddobbers.net/sutton/sutton_george.pdf):
"3. MARY2 SUTTON (George1) was born circa 1642. She married John Gosby between 1660 and 1663. She married Albert Albertson on 25 Dec 1668. She died by 10 Jan 1720 in Perquimans County, North Carolina.

Without question Mary Gosby – spelled many ways – was a daughter of George and Sarah Tilden Sutton and probably one of their eldest children. The fact that Nathaniel Sutton son of George and Sarah called John Gosby, cousin, would be proof of this in itself. While it would be logical that Nathaniel’s brother, Joseph, would call John Gosby cousin there was no connection between Nathaniel and the Nicholson family that we know at this generational level so it had to be through the Sutton line. Joseph’s wife, Deliverance had a sister, Hannah, who married John Gosby, son of John and Mary.
The Records in Huntington, Long Island are also proof."

And those records continue on on pp. 14-15.

Thanks for all your work and guidance! In looking through this, I think I may have uncovered more Huckstep ancestry!

Private User
10/31/2018 at 6:52 AM

Thank you so very much for assisting with this Erica! You are the best!!

Private User
10/31/2018 at 6:57 AM

Thank you so very much for assisting with this Erica! You are the best!!

11/1/2018 at 3:44 AM

Thank you for calling attention to this, we now have a clear line on a Quaker Migration path from New England to the south.

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