Still learning, help please

Started by Private User on Thursday, July 26, 2018

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Private User

7/26/2018 at 10:45 AM

GENi shows the following:

Ovsey Ber (Bernard) Traub is your first cousin once removed.
You → Harold Rosenthal
your father → Esther Rosenthal
his mother → Abram Itsyk (iosel) Joseph Torbe
her brother → Ovsey Ber (Bernard) Traub
his son

In my family, we (undoubtedly loosely) referred to my grandparents' sibs' children (my parents' generation) as great uncles/aunts, whereas the tree shown refers to them as 1st cousins once removed. Does this mean that their children (my generation) are my first cousins, and their children (the generation following me) are my first cousins once removed, same as they are my first cousins once removed? Silly that I am not clear on this, but is what it is. Help, please.

Mike Stangel G

7/27/2018 at 4:45 PM

Hi Private User, we use terms that are consistent with the chart at https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin

Which is to say, a great aunt or uncle is the sibling of your grandparent (in your example, Abram Itsyk Joseph Torbe. His child (Ovsey) is your first cousin once removed. Ovsey's child would be your second cousin.

Hope that helps!

Private User

7/28/2018 at 8:55 AM

Many thanks. Interesting that Ovsey (generation above me) is my first cousin once removed, while my father's brother's children's child (generation beneath me) also is my first cousin once removed. Sure I've been told that multiple times, but still have to think it through to keep it straight. Sign of age, what more need be said?

Mike Stangel G

8/25/2018 at 11:02 AM

Ha - no, it is confusing. You can think of "removed" as being reciprocal (you are the first cousin once removed to YOUR first cousin once removed) so by necessity it would have to apply to + or - the number of generations.

Private User

8/25/2018 at 1:36 PM

Hopefully Geni will implement the two-step relationship model i once suggested, which is easy to understand and translate in most languages.

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