Keziah Elizabeth (Tucker) Basse - "Indian Princess"

Started by Amy Nordahl Cote on Tuesday, July 10, 2018
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7/10/2018 at 7:59 AM

Deleted from the Suffix and Occupation fields.

Please note, many people find the term "Indian Princess" to be offensive.

Seemed best to remove such provocative language ASAP - I hope most of my cousins agree.

FYI Angus--

Angus Wood-Salomon

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7/10/2018 at 11:34 AM

I have a question...why is the actress Q'orianka Kilcher's photo being used for this profile?

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7/10/2018 at 12:17 PM
7/10/2018 at 3:04 PM

Wow, excellent catch!

7/10/2018 at 3:20 PM

I'd like to see the photo removed.

I'd also like to see her name corrected (neither Keziah nor Tucker are correct--her only recorded name is Elizabeth, the name she was baptized with, as recorded in John Basse's Prayer Book). Her mother's name is unknown.

7/10/2018 at 3:38 PM
8/3/2018 at 11:26 AM

Thanks Amy! I totally agree with the title removals!

12/2/2021 at 1:21 PM

A note about her name.

“Elizabeth” Basse, of the Nansemond

http://www.freeafricanamericans.com/bailey-berry.htm

The Bass family descended from John1 Bass of Norfolk County, Virginia, who married Keziah Elizabeth Tucker, a Nansemond Indian. Their descendants lived in the English colonial community. Some of them became part of the white community. However, their son William1 Bass's son William2 Bass remained in Norfolk County and married the "Molatto" daughter of "Negro" slave Jean Lovina.

1. John1 Bass, born 7 September 1616, was an early settler of Norfolk County, Virginia. On 14 August 1638 he married Keziah Elizabeth Tucker, daughter of

Robin the Elder of ye Nansimuns kingdom, a Baptized Xtian …

Some Bass Families, 12]. Their children were

i. Nathaniel1, born 29 May 1640, d. 1652.

ii. Keziah1, born 4 September 1643.

iii. Elizabeth1, born 12 July 1645.

iv. Jordan, born 27 June 1648, d. 1651.

v. Samuel1, born 23 March 1653.

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However, Heinegg Is quoting the Bell book. Later genealogists dispute it and say the chronology for that name & father is off. No one is disputing her ethnicity.

So we are showing her baptismal name of Elizabeth. The name “Keziah Elizabeth Tucker” may turn up “downstream” in the Bass tree.

12/2/2021 at 1:55 PM

Reading this thread I see Q`Orianka Waira Kilcher Bajioperak has no photos... Can someone add it to her?

12/4/2021 at 4:30 AM

Although I find "Indian Princess" some what derogatory, from the view of the new immigrants, familiar words were used to understand the hierarchy of tribal people. King, Queen, princess... its what the English speaking people used because they knew nothing else. I know the current view of the term "Indian princess" however the term could be left there but as a note about that given label.

12/4/2021 at 4:40 AM

Also, the word Keziah, at the time, was used to describe Elizabeth's character. Graceful, charming, pretty are English words that could be used. Keziah, her nickname, should be kept but also worth a note of the "name" Keziah. The same goes for the last name applied (Tucker). There is no evidence ,as of yet, to tie that to her but for some, that's all they know to look for. There are a few other profiles that could be our Gram ... I would look to evaluate and consolidate any profile that pertains to these catchy lables. Most people simply do not know why it will be altered. We need to lend explanations to educate those looking for her.

12/4/2021 at 4:46 AM

It is OUR OBLIGATION AND HONOR to preserve our ancestors' legacies. The profile could be an avenue for a bit of education on the times when the labels were important; lebles could be a topic of education for those that visit her profile.
-direct descendant

12/4/2021 at 4:46 AM

Please pardon the typos.

1/9/2022 at 6:52 AM

I have researched the Bass family for about 35 years. I have spent a lot of time on the Nansemond tribe. There is very little information about them.

Throughout the years the most debated issue seems to be the name of the Nansemond wife of John Basse. John or someone wrote her name in a bible as Elizabeth daughter of ye King of the Nansemond. Albert Bell wrote it as Keziah Elizabeth Tucker daughter of Robin the Elder. I believe they are both correct.

I have always asked why would Bell give her a "fictious" name? What did he have to gain by it? The family who commissioned him to do their Bass family genealogy did not ask for a particular result. He was not asked to add or omit anyone from the tree.

To date no one has ever been able to answer those questions, or to offer conclusive proof that Bell was wrong about her name. The divide of those who believe one or the other is about even. Those who insist she was only Elizabeth seem to be the most vociferous.

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