Joseph Morse, I - Joseph Morse is not John Moore and Dorothy, wife of Joseph Morse is not Dorothy Barber, wife of John Moore.

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Seeking proof (if any) that he was the son of John Moore and Dorothy Barber. Until such proof is found, we are disconnecting John Moore, the immigrant, from these parents.

If he was the John Moore of Henham, co. Essex[1] the first record of his presence is in September 1642, when he bought of Edmund Rice (father of his soon-to-be son-in-law) a house and land situated in the east part of the town, in the southerly part of what is now the town of Wayland. By this time, he was also married to his second wife, Elizabeth-- step-daughter of Philemon Whale.

There was also a John Moore of Cambridge who owned land there as late as 1643, and there has been an effort thus far fruitless, to prove that they were identical, but it seems doubtful, since the land owned by John Moore of Cambridge has been traced to his descendants. It was finally sold, about the time of the Revolution, by a Cambridge man, who happened at the time to be living in Sudbury, but who was not a descendant of John Moore of Sudbury.

1645: He took the oath of fidelity at Sudbury July 9; the same year, he bought of John Stone a dwelling house and house lot, and all other lands and meadows belonging to Stone by virtue of his right in the beginning of the plantation of Sudbury.

1653: He subscribed to the covenant of Lancaster "11th first mo. 1653," and forty acres of land were laid out in his name, and the first grant of lots (1653. 30th 9mo")

He died 6 January 1674.
Last Will & Testament

His will[2] was dated the 25th of August 1668, and was probated the 7th of April 1674. In it he mentions wife Elizabeth, eldest son son John of Lancaster; edlest daughter Elizabeth, wife of Henry Rice; daughter Mary, wife of Daniel Stone; youngest daughter Lydia, wife of James Cutler, former wife of Samuel Wright; sons William, Jacob, Joseph and Benjamin. He appoints Rev. Edmund Brown, Lt. Edmund Goodnow, and Mr. Thomas Stevens, overseers of the will. His signature to the will was John More.
Children

By his first wife ("Bridget" according to the Edmund Rice Association, but above implies her name was Elizabeth <nowiki>----</nowiki>):

Elizabeth Moore, b abt 1626, d Framingham, MA 23 Aug 1705; m. in Sudbury 1 Jan 1643/4 Henry Rice, son of Edmund Rice, her step first cousin, once removed.
John, b abt 1628, poss. the "John, son of John More and Ellesabeth," bp Henham, co Essex, 11 Nov 1628, d Lancaster, MA bef 23 Sep 1702; m1 in Sudbury 16 Nov 1654 Ann Smith, dau of John. m. Nov 16, 1654, Ann Smith (dau of John), m2 Lancaster 20 Aug 1683 Mary (<nowiki>----</nowiki>) Whitcomb, widow of John; signed the Covenant of Lancaster, 13: 2 mo. 1654 and d. in 1702, leaving a widow Mary. His wife died March 10, 1670-1. NOTE: Stevens-Miller 2:153, disentangles John2 Moore from an older John MOore of Lancaster who had a wife named Judith.
(poss) Susan bp "Suzand, daughter of John More," Henham 17 Jul 1630; bur Henham 18 July 1630.

By his second wife, Elizabeth Rice, dau of Henry Rice and step-daughter of Philemon Whale:
4. Anna, bp Berkhamstead, co Hertford, 12 Oct 1634; prob dy
5. Richard b abt 1636-7, bur Berkhamstead 7 Nov 1650
6. William b abt 1639, d Sudbury 25 Mar 1688 prob unm. In 1664 he bought land in Sudbury of Thomas Beesbeech of Marshfield; in 1679 he sold forty-eight acres in four pieces to his brother Benjamin.
7. Mary, bp Berkhamstead 9 Jan 1641/2; m1 Sudbury Sept. 8 1661, Richard Ward (drowned in Sudbury River, March 31, 1666); m. 2d.2 Nov 1667 Dea. David Stone.

8. Lydia, b Sudbury 24 Jun 1643; d there 23 Nov 1723; m1 Sudbury 31 My 1664 Samuel Wright; m2 15 Jun 1665 James Cutler
9. Jacob Moore, b. Sudbury 29 April 1645, 23 Mar 1715/6; m. May 29, 1667, Elizabeth Loker, dau of Henry.
10. Joseph, b. Sudbury 21 Oct 1647, d there 2 Jan 1725/6; m1. Lydia Maynard, dau of John; m2 Ruth.
11. Elizabeth b 10 Jan 1649/50; d.y.
12. Benjamin, b. abt 1652, d Sudbury 29 Oct 1729; m 11 Nov 1686 Dorothy Wright, dau of Edward.
Sources

↑ The Genealogist 6:134, 139-40), he m1 abt 1625 Elizabeth _____; he m2 at Little Gaddesden, do. Hertford, 27 Nov 1633 Elizabeth Rice, dau of Henry and Elizabeth (Frost) Rice and stepdaughter of Philemon1 Whale, later of Sudbury. She was baptized at Stanstead, co. Essex, on 18 Nov 1612 and died in Sudbury, Mas, on 14 Dec 1690 as "widow Elizabeth Moore" (NEHGR 17:140; VR 2:317).
Life in New England

There is uncertainty about when John1 Moore arrived in New England. If the baptism of Mary, dau of John Moore, in Berkhamstead on 9 Jan 1641/2 is that of a daughter of the immigrant, he must have arrived after that time.

While the town history claims that John Moore was at the Sudbury settlement soon after it began (1638-1639),<ref>The History of Sudbury, [http://www.wikitree.com/photo/The_History_of_Sudbury.jpg Page 26]</li>
<li id="_note-1">#_ref-1|↑ Worcester Co Probate #10921</li></ol></ref>

Attached Documents

Author?, The History of Sudbury, Page 26
Author?, "Article?" in The American Genealogist, 66: 2, pp. 75-77. (Check; pagination doesn't make sense)
Robert Charles Anderson, "The English Origins of Philemon Whale of Sudbury, Massachusetts," in The Genealogist, 6 (1985):131-141.
Ethel Stanwood Bolton, "Some Descendants of John Moore of Sudbury, Mass.," NEHGS Register, 57(1903), p. 300-301
Ethel Stanwood Bolton, "Addenda to "Some Descendants..." NEHGS Register 58(1904):176
Case records (for place noted): docket 10921. (more info needed)
DeForest & DeForest, William Henry Moore and his ancestry, 1934, pp. 319-320
P. William Filby, ed., Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, available on Ancestry.com.
Michael Lechner, with[Lechner-19|Ted Harold Lechner, Lechner Family History
John Plummer, "The English Origin of John1 Moore of Sudbury, Massachusetts," in The American Genealogist, 66(1991):75-77
Pope, Pioneers of Massachusetts, p. 317
Margaret Skinner Rice, Rice Family - S2/P1, p. 1.
John S. Sargent, "Moore Genealogy," NEGHS Register, 52 (1898):72-73
Savage, Genealogical Dictionary, vol. 3, p. 229
Vital Records of Sudbury, Massachusetts, p 91, LDS film #0185455
Andrew Henshaw Ward, Rice Family (Ward), pp. 29-31.
Mary Walton Ferris, "Dawes-Gates Ancestral Lines", privately printed 1931.

Filby, P. William, ed.. Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s. Farmington Hills, MI, USA: Gale Research, 2009.
Yates Publishing Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.

Acknowledgements

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Barbara Corley for creating WikiTree profile Moore-12410 through the import of export-BloodTree.ged on May 12, 2013.
WikiTree profile Moore-6482 created through the import of tree1.ged on Nov 3, 2011 by Kim Baltz. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Kim and others.
WikiTree profile Moore-10155 created through the import of Jamie Matthews Coyle Family Tr.ged on Nov 29, 2012 by Jamie Coyle. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Jamie and others.

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Joseph Morse, father of Joseph Morse m. Hester Pierce, left a will. His name was clearly signed Morse. He names his children & wife.
I have yet to see any evidence that his wife Dorothy was Dorothy Barber, furthermore, since Dorothy Barber was John Moore's wife, I conclude that someone erroneously mixed all these people up.

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