Ludolf van Coevorden (van Bierum) - evidence for parents needed

Started by Alex Moes on Friday, May 4, 2018
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Private User
5/5/2018 at 3:09 AM

possible parents

https://www.genealogieonline.nl/genealogie-benjamins-poppes/I20598.php

Genealogie Benjamins - Poppes » Rudolf (Rudolf) van Bierum
Persoonlijke gegevens Rudolf (Rudolf) van Bierum Mannelijk
Hij is geboren rond 1070 in Bierum, Groningen, Nederland.
Hij is overleden.

Voorouders (en nakomelingen) van Rudolf van Bierum

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Rudolf I (Liudolf) van Fivelgo van Werl
± 982-1044 Adelheid van Verdun
± 976-> 1021
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Nn Rudolfzoon van Fivelgo van Werle
± 1035-????

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Rudolf van Bierum
± 1070-????
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Leffart Burggraaf van Groningen
± 1093-± 1178 Hartbert van Bierum Graaf van Drenthe Bisschop van Utrecht
< 1100-1150 Ludolf van Bierum Burggraaf van Coevorden
± 1105-± 1177
Tree 5 Lambert van Peize
± 1110-1181

Gezin van Rudolf (Rudolf) van Bierum
Kind(eren):

Leffart Burggraaf van Groningen ± 1093-± 1178
Hartbert van Bierum Graaf van Drenthe Bisschop van Utrecht < 1100-1150
Ludolf van Bierum Burggraaf van Coevorden ± 1105-± 1177 Tree 8
Lambert van Peize ± 1110-1181

Private User
5/5/2018 at 4:27 AM

Leffart is his brother, not his father.
so you can solve the parentship.

5/5/2018 at 6:55 AM

These websites contradict each other as to which brother was the prefect van Groningen and which the lord of Coevorden.

Private User
5/5/2018 at 1:17 PM

the oldest brother was prefect
the youngest castelein/lord.
in later years, when it went wrong in Groningen they will be all together in Coevorden,

5/5/2018 at 6:25 PM

Wikipedia agrees with you but the Coevorden histories have it the other way around, the municipal websites list no references. Wikipedia references the Quedam narracio, what we really need is access to a copy of Quedam narracio. Written in 1230s it would count as a primary source.

Private User
5/6/2018 at 7:05 AM

and still this paper is in latin

5/6/2018 at 7:27 PM

I have asked a collaborator to review it for me. He is a historian and reads latin

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