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Alice Lionell Runnels Kitson - Kitson/Reynolds Ancestors

Started by Private User on Thursday, April 5, 2018
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Private User
4/5/2018 at 7:35 AM

In doing further research of my Reynolds line, I have come across this profile...there is no "Lyonelle Kitson" to be found in the line of Sir Thomas Kitson. He has only 3 children, John, Margaret and Mary. The Pedigree can be found here: https://archive.org/stream/visitationsuffo00hervgoog#page/n119/mode..., also it is unlikely that Alice Kitson was born in Plymouth or in New England as she would have been born before the arrival of the MayFlower, which occurred in 1620.

Curiously, there are previous connected marriages in both of the Reynolds/Kitson lines...Sir James Reynolds is married to Judeth Hervey in 1655 and Sir Robert Reynolds, marries a Kesia Tyrell, daughter of Kesia Hervey, their great- grandmother is a Kitson, via Lady Penelope Gage Hervey. SO the Reynolds and Kitsons obviously were connected prior to arriving in New England.

This needs to be corrected...

Sincerely,

Mimi Nusbaum

Private User
4/5/2018 at 3:09 PM

I know I have said before that my Reynolds liked to marry cousins. I found a record for Thomas Kitson and Elisabeth Mosely married 28 May 1592 in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England. Then from that I found children born to a father named Thomas: Anna 1593, Elisabeth 1595, Hellena 1596, Hellena again 1602 and Thomas 1605.
Erica Howton C
4/5/2018 at 4:55 PM

Was Alice’s father Lyonell Kitson or Thomas Kitson who married Prudence Scofield? Both are attached to her currently, no notes in profile to help me resolve the parent conflict, both fathers born Yorkshire

Private User
4/6/2018 at 4:45 AM

I also found an Alice Kitson married to an Andrew Hayre in 1597 in York...

Private User
4/6/2018 at 5:00 AM

Another thing, Hope (Hopestill) Reynolds is most likely Job's Daughter, William is her grandfather...and John is her Uncle, she marries Eli Demeritt, I believe as his second wife.

Private User
4/6/2018 at 5:09 AM

Alice's Children are...(not listed in birth order)
Job,
John,
Samuel,
William,
Jane and Hope (not Hopestill)
possibly another daughter who does not survive to adulthood

Private User
4/6/2018 at 5:11 AM

I have "Hopestill" listed as his daughter in some trees but Hope and Hopestill are two different women.

Private User
4/6/2018 at 2:04 PM

I didn't go back that far yet, I'll have a poke around in the records tonight.
Erica Howton C
4/6/2018 at 2:17 PM

Thanks guys. That her name has Lionell in it suggests someone believes she's of Lionell Kitson - but is that correct?

Private User
4/6/2018 at 2:31 PM

So your answer is as follows, and I will put her baptism recd. in her images: Lyonell Kitson married Prudence Scolfield 12 June 1605 in Birstall, St Peter, Yorkshire Eng. On the 17th of July 1614 Alice was born, father listed as Lionell Kitson. The image was a bit tricky to find because someone transcribed it as Ritson.
Erica Howton C
4/6/2018 at 5:45 PM

Very nice find, thank you.

Is that before Birdsall, North Yorkshire, England or a different Birdstall?

Private User
4/6/2018 at 6:10 PM

This is how the record was transcribed, and as you can see in the image I added it would be very easy to confuse a "K" as an "R". The person who originally said Lionell was her father knew how to search records. It has taken me years to learn how to find tricky transcriptions.

Name:
Alice Ritson
Event Type:
Christening (Baptism)
Baptism Date:
17 Jul 1614
Baptism Place:
Birstall, St Peter, Yorkshire, England
Parish:
Birstall, St Peter
Father:
Linnell Ritson
Erica Howton C
4/6/2018 at 9:58 PM

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birstall,_West_Yorkshire In West Yorkshire. I will fix & very glad I asked. That is a big clue to Electitous origins

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