Thomas Pierce - Duplicate Thomas Pierce ?

Elizabeth Barham / Jackson dies at Mulberry Island

William Pierce, of Mulberry Island

(I don't particularly believe the Heacham birthplace, I think that may have been acquired by association with evil weed popularizer John Rolfe).

BUT surely Capt William would have been considered an heir of massacred Thomas? He was living in 1655

2nd wife of Mr William Pierce also named Joan? (1st wife supposedly dead in 1630,

* [https://books.google.com/books?id=yruvKfanqvAC&lpg=PA50&ots... page 52] of Southside Virginia Families, Volume 1 By John Bennett Boddie. 1641 will of Anthony Barham, gent., of Mulberry Island, Virginia. "To Mrs Joan Pierce wife of Mr William Pierce"

Extracted from http://eradcliffe.tripod.com/thigpen.html with comments

"JONE (JOAN) PHIPPEN, d. ca 1650, Virginia; m. Captain William Peirce, d. ca 1656, Mulberry Island Plantation."

otherwise seen her death date as 1630, after returning from trip to London in 1629, where she said she had been in VA 20 years (1609 arrival). Given the 1641 will mention of Mrs Joan Pierce either the death date is wrong for Joan Phippen or he remarried to a second Joan.

From Surry County, Va. records, 21 Jan. 1655, Book 1, p. 116:

"Capt. William Peirce, his son, Thomas and grandson William Peirce were living on Mulberry Island, Warwick Co., VA."

What is the date they were living there? Before 1622 or in 1655? Because the Thomas dead in 1622 had no son.

"I. William Peirce, b. in Eng. came to Va. on ship "Blessing" 1611 with his MOTHER Jone, sister Jone, bro. Thomas and cousin Cicilly Reynolds. No further record on him."

If his brother Thomas was on the Blessing in 1609 how is he on the 1618 ship with wife? Unless he returned to England and 1618 was a 2nd trip.

"May 1623 Gov. Wyatt appointed him [William of Mulberry Hill] Capt. of the Guard and Gov. of the City. ...In that year, as Lt. Gov. of James Cittye he led an expedition against the Chickahominies, in retaliation for the 1622 Massacre, falling on them on July 23rd, with no small slaughter"

I can see if his son was killed, lead an expedition against the enemy.

Thomas (d 1622) had a brother Edward the merchant Taylor in England. Did he have children, could have come to Virginia?

Col William Pierce of Cople Parish b abt 1631 we are having trouble finding his parents.

We have a lot of trouble with Thomas Pierces, Thomas Bennetts, and Richard Bennetts, there being at least two of each of them.

Elizabeth Barham Jackson nee Pierce belongs to Thomas Pierce d. 1622 and Alice (Snayle?) who m2 the Thomas Bennett who was *not* the father of Governor Richard Bennett. She is the half-sister of "Richard Bennett Not the Governor".

Why I tagged you - I like your treatment of that family group. So the question is, is massacred Thomas the son of William? Due to the Mulberry Island association they have to have been related at the very least. Had to have been - I think if we look at the property ended up with kidnapped daughter we're going to see Capt William's name on the patents.

BUT it makes no sense that Edward & Anne were Thomas' closest heirs in 1622, when he had a father and a sister and mother known to be alive in Virginia in 1622, and who visited London in 1629, does it?

Are we maybe seeing a nephew Thomas?

Do we know where the birth of Birth: 1592 Boughton-under-Blean, Kent, England, United Kingdom comes from? It fits with brother Edward Merchant Taylor just fine, maybe not as much with Heacham ?

With grains of salt

From http://www.reynoldsfamily.org/line17/chris_33.php

5. William Pierce (III) [480]
b 1573 Dorsetshire, England
d after 1655 [489]
m 1st Joan d 1630 [490]
   c. Jane (I)d. ____
m 2nd Mary (Bourne II) Bennett [491]
   c. Thomas [492]

[490] Boddie, Colonial Surry, p50, says that wife Joan Pierce came to VA on the "Blessing"quot; in 1610. She was listed as a survivor in the muster taken after the 1622 Indian massacre. Cf. Hotten, Lists of Emigrants to America - 1600 - 1700, p224. She was also with Captain Pierce on a mission to London in 1629. She died shortly afterward in 1630. Boddie, Colonial Surry, p50.

[491] Relict of Edward Bennett, dau of Jasper & Mary Bourne (I) of Somersetshire ENG.

[492] Boddie, Colonial Surry, p60 refers to Captain Pierce's son "Thomas Pierce, and his grandson William Pierce (IV) living on Mulberry Island with him 21 Jan 1655. Thomas Pierce also had a daughter Jane (II) who

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Cecily Reynolds came in the SWAN, 1611, not the Blessing, 1609. So there were two Cecily's also.

https://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=7213...

Thomas appears to have been a relative of Lt. William Pierce, of the Seaventure (1609), who served under Yeardly, Captain of the Governor's Company of soldiers. Later William Pierce was Lt. Governor in 1629 and a member of the Virginia Council in 1631. His daughter Jane Pierce was the third wife of John Rolfe. Thomas Pierce established the next plantation south of Martin's Hundred along the upper side of the James River.

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OK, the Thomas need to be kept separate, Agree?

This Mary Bennett

Predeceased Edward Bennett ?

Colonel William Pierce, of Cople Parish is our currently parentless Pierce. Was he a son of Thomas Pierce ?

Erica Howton, just had a look at the Bennetts. There's a parent conflict in place right now:

Agnes Bennett

Poor Agnes has two mommies and two daddies. Unfortunately they are both plausible parents, so I can't see which set wins.... Any ideas?

Re: Mary and Edward Bennet: They are born 27 years apart. That's highly unlikely, no? Maybe we're missing another Edward in there.

Keep them all far AWAY from Governor Richard Bennett's family - as far as anyone has been able to find out, they were NOT related.

The Governor belonged to the "Wiveliscombe, Somerset" Bennetts; no one has found a connection between them and any other Bennett family, but there has been a lot of Wild Mass Guessing.

Which family Not-The-Governor belonged to has not been ascertained with certainty either, except that they were NOT from Somerset.

Bad merge of Agnes Bennett in 2016 - I’m undoing. Good catch.

Maven I had found a bad merge on your Thomas Pierce tree and fixed so don’t be alarmed.

Another one with multiple parents, looks similar:

John Bennett

This one at least looks resolvable by mere inspection:

Anne Pearce

The Kelvedon Wright’s strike again !

Pretty sure her parents are not known so she’s off the Bennett tree

Elizabeth Gilbert

So this Edward Peirs could must be a brother or other kin to William Pierce, of Mulberry Island

Merchant Taylor Companies of London or Bristol might be helpful, the son Edward was one.

So long as you don't confuse him with the Governor's Uncle Edward! (Now, why didn't these guys use a little more imagination naming their children!!!

Found this through Family Search.org. Dose this make any difference about linage?

Baptism entry
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County Worcestershire
Place (with link) Redmarley D'Abitot
Church name (with link) St Bartholomew
Register type (with link) Transcript
Baptism date 09 Mar 1588/9
Person forename Elizabeth
Person sex F
Father forename John
Father surname BENNET
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