This is my comment on Elizabeth in 2013
"Taken from My Heritage - date information is unlikely to be correct - give that it posits that she'd had two children by the age of 13, and her daughter's birthdate is 1591. (Her daughter's dates also look garbled). Possible that we should simply delete the whole line. [Sharon 2013]"
I'm good to delete
We desperately need sources to keep this line.
The only profile details I can find are on Abraham Du Toit and
Stephanus du Toit
Provided by Kevin Oram:
Abraham Du Toit;[ Abraham Du Toit] born 1581 at Lille. Died 1617, probably in La Madeleine, Lille, Spanish Netherlands.
We know very little about Abraham (sometimes Abram) Du Toit beyond that he was probably born at and did indeed live in La Madeleine before the walls of Lille.
It is perhaps worth noting that Abraham was the only Old Testament name commonly adopted by Catholics in 16th Century France, as well as being a common Protestant name. He married Isabeth du Pont (fl ca 1581 – 1602, Lille). They had at least one child, a son Stephan Du Toit, born at Lille in 1602.
In the 16th Century AD La Madeleine was a settlement on the main road (Chaussee) from Lille to Menin, beneath the walls of Lille and adjacent to the Port de la Madeleine (the La Madeleine Gate). Judging by contemporaneous maps of Lille and environs, the area was semi-rural and likely farmed by market-gardeners supplying fresh produce to Lille.
Perhaps Abraham Du Toit was such a farmer, or he might have been a tradesman or artisan doing business on what was one of the main roads into and out of the city.
The occurrence of the Du Toit surname as early as 1430 in documents dealing with the lease of a property in Lille suggests that at least some Du Toits were bourgeois burghers of Lille, and it is quite possible that their livelihood was earned in farming or the skilled trades.
Provided by Kevin Oram:
Stephan Du Toit;[Stephanus du Toit] born 1602 at Lille. Died 1680 at Lille, France.
Once again beyond dates of birth, death and marriage, little is known about Stephan Du Toit. We do know he married Marie Marguerite Salembier (born 1604 at Lille, died 1689, Lille). They had four children: Jean-Baptiste; Marie-Catharina; Louis and Pierre.
It was during the lifetime of Stephan and Marie Marguerite Du Toit that the major upheavals of the War of Devolution (1667 – 1668) occurred and Lille fell to the armies of Louis XIV. The Du Toits had presumably by this time, if not before, converted from Catholicism to Protestantism.
The advent of French administration in Lille caused increasing concern for the Protestant community and as is clear from what we know about the movements of Stephan’s son Pierre Du Toit, they began to leave Flanders for cities in the Dutch Republic.
My comment on: Isabeth Du Toit
"Info taken from My Heritage - cannot be correct if she was a wife and mother and also died at 11. Assuming the son's birthdate to be correct, this profile's birthdate seems likely to be wrong, as do her mother's Possibly we should simply delete this family line off Geni? [Sharon 2013]"
As I added them, I'm going to take these two out of the mix by deleting them.
Consistency check also suggests things are out: Stephan Du Toit is under 12 years old for the birth of his child Jean Baptiste du Toit.Stephan Du Toit is under 12 years old for the birth of his child Louis du Toit.Maria Marguerite Salembier du Toit is under 12 years old for the birth of her child Jean Baptiste du Toit.Maria Marguerite Salembier du Toit is under 12 years old for the birth of her child Louis du Toit.
We have yet to find the sources for the link between Stephanus du Toit and Abraham Du Toit and since nothing seems to prevent Benoit du Pont being added back to Abraham as father of Stephanus, it's probably more logical to cut Stephanus' parents, until we have sources for any.
From https://www.geni.com/people/Sharon-Ann-Sheina-de-Wet- about : Abraham Du Toit
Up until Abraham du Toit and his wife Isabeth Dupont everything seems correct, but then after them there is something drastically wrong with the profiles on both the du Toit's and Dupont's sides. There are duplicates of the same people, and Benoit Dupont's parents are also shown as Elizabeth du Toit's parents. Benoit Dupont is himself as well as his half brother and his son, and there are some other strange mistakes under these two families profiles.
Could someone please take a look at the various mistakes, duplicates, extra names of the same people, etc. and fix it up.
I am getting confused just trying to figure it out.
Hi dear all - I am coming in quite late on this Benoit du Pont discussion, but would like to know if anyone has any docs for this profile's parents? I cannot find anything on them and there seems to be 2 mothers? This is causing a tree clash ''my side.'' I do not know this line but something seems ''off?!'' Thnx in advance. Stay safe!