Hi there,
I was wondering with U3a1 mtdna where does it tend to be most concentrated in Europe? I’ve gotten conflicted information about whether it came from the Middle East via Eastern Europe or Spain. I did my DNA test with ancestry and 23 and me. Everything stayed except the fact I had no Iberian peninsula traits on 23 and me. Could this have to do with the fact my mtdna was done separately?
Hello my DNA Mt is U3a1 and I am from Spain, it is more likely that your mt DNA is very old, normally in autosomal tests we will give the results of our ancestors from 5 to 7 generations ago, your Mt DNA will be much earlier, the Mutation U3a1 appears about 9000 years ago and samples of this DNA were found in Portugal dating from 2900 to 2500 BC and in Andalucia (Spain) between 2500 and 2200 BC, there is a theory that this haplogroup extended from the Iberian Peninsula to Scotland, Wales and Islancia towards the Calcolithic or the early Bronze Age, I am doing a small study about this haplogroup and I have created a blog, I invite you to visit it as soon as you have finished the study of this haplogroup, it is really just a small study done by an amateur like me but wanting to learn.
a greeting
Thank you so much for responding 🙂. This is all really fascinating. So my grandmother was from Ireland, did this haplogroup extend into Ireland as well ? Would you be able to send me the blog link for your study?
This is really cool to me because from what I understand U3 mtdna isn’t super common in Europe. It’s nice to meet a very very very distant cousin 🙂 like you.
Amy
Of course I will send you the link to my blog about genetic genealogy, this is it.
https://adnygenealogiademifamilia.com/
I have not yet put the interpretation of U3a1, my maternal grandmother, which I'm finishing and I hope that this week or the one that comes at the latest I can put it on the blog, also tell you that my blog is in Spanish, but you can use the translator, sorry for my English, which is not very good.
Greetings and I am at your disposal for any help you need on this subject.
Angel
Here is the website https://adnygenealogiademifamilia.com/ in English: https://anamariamejiaalzate.com/2018/03/16/a-dna-story-written-with...
Hi, I have been advised by LivingDNA that I have U3, subclade U3a1. It advised me, my maternal DNA is most commonly found in Lithuanian Roma?!? U3 has a middle eastern origin. It is thought to date back 30,000 years. There are many different arguments as to how U3 reached Europe, from neolithic farmers to etrucans and spread if Roman colonies from Italy.The Romani have high frequencies of U3, particularly amongst Lithuanian, Spanish, and Polish populations. I was most suprised at finding this to be my haplogroup.
I have found the Angel's website to be very useful and interesting. Thank you, Angel. I might add that through MyHeritage my DNA was a mixture of Scandanavian, English, Scottish/Welsh &Irish but also 2.7% Iberian. Which links in with Angel's information. I have since had DNA test results with LivingDNA (for more British regions) and Ancestry. Both these test reults do not show Iberian though??
In due course, I may use 23 and me for a further MT test?? would it be more comprehnesive than LivingDNA?
I know that U3 is the most common mtDNA haplotype with the European Roma, but I don't think it's the U3a1 subclade. The U3a1 subclade has greatest frequency in Iceland (almost 4%) and the runner-up is Scotland.
It seems to me that everyone in Iceland with U3a1 is a maternal line descendent of Ragnheiður Eiríksdóttir from Kross in Landeyjar who shot to prominence in 1471 after having brought a successful indictment against her husband's murderers, who despite being very rich and powerful people, received capital punishment for their deeds.
Most of the Icelandic upper class for centuries after were her maternal line descendents.
Hi Elias, thank you for your post. It is interesting to note the U3a1 subclade has greatest frequency in Iceland and close to it is Scotland.
I have checked back on my details on myheritage tree and I cant see any link, so far, to Ragnheidur Eiriksdottir from Iceland. I have several ancient relatives from Norway and Sweden.
On mytrue ancestry, my closest ancient populations are celt & saxon 2.9%, celt &longobard 3.88%, viking icelandic & longobard 4.63%, viking icelandic & celt 4.82%, viking Icelandic 7.496%. Also my DNA samples match , viking norse iceland (935AD) - 98% sample match. The MTDNA haplogroup is U5a1h - the YDNA is R1a1a1b1a3. From what I can gather from information on mytrueancestry, at one point Iceland was colonised by Norwegian men and gaelic females.
Hi Elias, on my mothers matrnal line I can only trace back to 1782 and I've hit a brick wall! However, on my mothers father's side (my grandfather), I can trace back to the 800'sAD. (Scottish side) The mtDNA haplogroup is U3a1 (Living DNA). The U5a1h I mentioned was on mytrue ancestry, as one of my matches.
I am U3a1c1, the only one detected in Spain. my extra mutation 10831 have not been reported yet in North Europe, therefore, my lineage might migrate to south 2,000 y.a. from Holstein Saxon motherland for almost all U3a1c subclade
my Yfull kit is YF67430 and I published my full mitocondrial sequence in NCBI GenBank (the only YSEQ kit below U3a1c1). I am admin in U3a Yfull group managing 120 kits. There are 6 new U3a1 clades catalogued in last update
New paper about native iberian mitocondrial haplogroups discovered 5 new U3a1 from Spain and 1 U3a1 from Portugal. 3 samples have a regressive marker (16343A!) which is the same detected in Angel Guerrero's 23andme kit, 2 of them are below a new branch in Yfull: U3a1n, one sample is from Murcia and another from Granada. I am not now the only U3a1c1 iberian sample because there is a new sample from Valladolid, Castile, with different extra variant than mine. Regressive markers are mutations that deletes new variants a
*Insert mouth drop emoji* Originally started with AncestryDNA but it don't give you a haplogroup so I went with 23 & Me which gave me U3a1 as my mtDNA due my aunt on my maternal side cant really spit in a tube I started a LivingDNA account which again giving me U3a1 since my maternal grandmother was originally from Scotland it co-sides with all your findings that it may be highly noted in this area. Which now gives me a new area to start hunting down this line in my family tree and how far back I can go before I hit a brick wall.