Ellen de Baguley aka Ellen de Corona - Ellen de Baguley aka Ellen de Corona

In doing a little cleanup on the Leghs I notice a Corona problem. First, here’s a source note.

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Notes

• Remains, Historical and Literary, Connected with the Palatine ..., Volume 97. Page 78. GoogleBooks

Hugh de Corona married Amabilla the daughter of Sir Thomas de Bamville, and left issue one son, Hugh, and two daughters, Lucy and Sarah.

Hugh de Corona, the second of Adlington, married, and left a son, John, who was lord of the manor of Adlington in the reign of Edward II. “John de Corona held the manor of Adlington and the manor of little Neston. Thomas de Corona is his son and heir” (Tower records, 22 Edward II). The Christian name of John's wife was Margaret.

Thomas de Corona died unmarried about the middle of the reign of Edward III., and so the male line failed. During his lifetime, by a deed without date, he gave to John de Lassells all the land which Lucy de Corona held of his inheritance in the ville of Newton-in-Wirrall, and which came to him by the gift of his grandfather, Hugh de Corona, and all the land which Margaret, who was wife of John de Corona, held of his inheritance in Newton-in-Wirrall, by gift of his father, John de Corona. (MS. penes R. Wood.)

Lucy, daughter of the first Hugh de Corona, married for second husband Sir William Baggiley, and had issue by him one son,

who died without issue, and two daughters named Ellen and Isabel, which last married Sir John de Hyde.

Nothing is known of Sarah, the sister of Lucy, and it seems likely that she either died single, or, if married, left no offspring.

Ellen, daughter of Lucy de Corona, married Sir John Legh, son of Sir William Venables of Bradwell, and called "de Legh" from having been left to the care of his mother, whose maiden name was Legh, and which was also the name of the place where he was born, and where he lived till his marriage. From this marriage the Leghs of Adlington descend.

Sir John de Legh and Ellen his wife purchased Norbury Booths (28 Edward I.), and there fixed their residence. Sir John died in 1323, and his wife in 1350.

Thomas de Corona, the last of his line, having no issue, gave a moiety of Adlington to John and Ellen Legh for life, with remainder to Robert their second son, and his heirs, by a deed bearing date in ye early part of ye reign of Edward II. “Thomas de Corona grants to John de Legh and Ellen his wife all his part of the manor and vill of Adlington (except the lands which Margaret his mother, and Lucy formerly wife of Hugh de Corona had in dower) to hold to the said John and Ellen for their lives." This John is probably the same who is called “John de Adlington" in a presentment against twelve persons for hunting in the king's forest with hounds and horns, and destroying deer, and finally joining in an affray with the keepers. 13 Edward II. (Ormerod.)

In 9 Edward II., Thomas de Corona gave to John and Ellen Legh all the rest of his lands in Adlington previously held in dower by Lucy and Margaret. After this grant was made, Queen Isabella, wife of Edward II., seized Adlington manor, alleging that Thomas de Corona had forfeited it to her by reason of the alienation having been made without her license, as the same was held of her as of her manor of Macclesfield.

In 17 Edward II., John de Legh being lately dead, Ellen, his widow obtained a re-grant of the Adlington manor, on her purchasing a pardon from the Queen. To this pardon a fair seal of Queen Isabella is affixed, from which it would appear that the Queen held Macclesfield to her own separate use, even whilst her husband was king. (See illustration.)

So Private User I agree with your analysis, and I wanted feedback on what I’m thinking needs to be cleaned up on Geni.

We know that Ellen “de Baguely” and Thomas de Corona alias Thomas le Coroun were sister and brother, common mother, Lucy de Corona We know that Lucy’s brother Thomas de Corona of Adlington married a Margaret but has no children.

Who, then, was the father of his nephew Thomas?

Geni calls him Thomas de Corona of Adlington I suspect that’s wrong, because she didn’t marry her brother, and the estate of Adlington came from “her” father.

Therefore, we don’t know his name. Lucy’s son took her surname - it seemed this was done often enough at this time and place.

Should we rename him N.N. Or merge into his brother in law?

Do I make sense? I didn’t check Omerod.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Corona-11

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This profile had Thomas de Corona (1260-1316), the son of Hugh de Corona and his wife, Amabilia Baumville; the brother of Lucy Baggiley nee Corona; married in 1278 to Lucy (Born Out of Wedlock) Corona, an illegitimate daughter of Edward I king of England; father of Ellen Decorona who married John de Legh.

The Wikipedia: Adlington Hall article in August 2014 says, "Hugh's son Thomas, who had no children, granted it to his sister Ellen, who married John de Legh of Booth".

The pedigree from the Visitation of Cheshire in 1580 says, Thomas was the son of Lucia and Hugh son of Hugh de Corona, and Hugh had two wives, the other being Anabell the daughter of T de Bamvill.[7]

If Thomas wasn’t Lucy’s son & Ellen was a Baguely daughter, why is Lucy given an unnamed first husband in narratives? Regardless, he wasn’t Thomas.

As soon as someone agrees I’ll make a N.N.

Or we could stick with Jim Weber who only shows the Baggily husband. I like this best.

https://wc.rootsweb.com/trees/162642/I33461/-/individual

https://archive.org/details/contributionsto00renagoog/page/n111/mod...

This Bigelow Society page gives her as Lucy (unknown), widow of Hugh d 1291, married 2) William De Baggily.

http://bigelowsociety.com/rod/baguley5.htm#Lucy

This was a while ago, let me refresh my thinking...

Hi Erica,

I reviewed my tree on My Heritage and this is what I developed from the 2018 discussion and I’m not sure I worked out this Corona problem. My tree in this area is a work in progress but I remember trying to build the Corona branch once I found Anila de Corona married to Roger de Formby. Was Anila de Corona the daughter of the son of Henry III who took that name on receiving the the earls hunting lodge in Macclesfield Forest, known as Addlington, and does that explain the introduction of the ducal crown in the Corona heraldry?

1. Roger de Derby of Formby c. 1200 - c. 1264 = Anilia de Corona c. 1200 - c. 1249, father of

2. Hugh I "Hugo de Coroun (aka: Hugh de Formby)" de Corona of Adlington, Lord of Adlington and Little Neston (took his mother’s name) a. 1212 - c. 1245 = Lucy (Lucia) NN, with the following note
3. John de Corona c. 1240 - c. 1300

Roger de Derby had a brother Nicholas de Derby, and a 2nd wife NN by whom he had a daughter Avice de Formby. More here at British History Online https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/lancs/vol3/pp45-52

2a. 'When Henry III annexed the earldom of Chester to the Crown in 1237 he also gave the earls hunting lodge in Macclesfield Forest, known as Addlington, to his natural son. His son took the name of Corona and the lodge eventually passed to a second son of the Venables of Kinderton through marriage and he took his mother's name of Legh.
Hugh's Coat of Arms designates him as a duke, second only in rank to the monarch. He lived during the reign of Henry III and Edward I "Longshanks." The strawberry leaf coronet on a shield is also indicative of a son of a Prince of England as well. (more research is needed as to where the name "de Corona" comes into the family as it is key). Coronets were not automatically given to children of kings or princes, they had to be awarded through Royal Warrant. A similar crown can be found under the media section, showing Edward II being crowned.
Source: http://books.google.com/books?id=rfhYAAAAYAAJ&pg=RA1-PA275-IA2&lpg=...

2b. Hugh de Corona, Lord of Adlington Hall, et al.. Lands were given to him directly by Royal Grant, sometime after the 21st year of the reign of Henry III. Adlington was formerly a residence fo the Saxon Earl Edwin. Edwin and his brother Morcar were two of Harold's chief genral's at Hastings. In 1270, Hugh gave his lands at Penisby (which he had purchased from the Priory of St. John at Chester) to his daughter Sarah. (Sometime in the reign of Edward I). Married Amabilla in 1241.

Source: Remains, Historical and Literary, Connected with the Palatine Counties of Lancaster and Chester , Volume 97 (Google eBook) page 78 http://books.google.com/books?id=cfoMAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA78&lpg=PA78&dq=l...

2c. HOW ADLINGTON CAME TO BELONG TO THE LEIGH FAMILY. Source: http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I231534&tree...
Adlington is and has always been one of the most noteworthy townships in Prestbury parish. The first known possessor of this manor was the Saxon earl Edwin. After him the Norman earls of Chester held it as a valuable possession. When they died out it lapsed to the crown in 21 Henry III Then it came to Hugh de Corona by royal grant and after continuing in this family for three generations passed to the Leghs of Adlington by deed of gift as will shortly be explained.
It probably is the same as Edwin's town and is the Edulvin tune of Domesday. The name is derived from its being a residence of the Saxon earl Edwin, earl of Chester and Coventry. Edwin and his brother Morcar were two of Harold's chief generals at the battle of Hastings. Edwin retreated from the battle after Harold's death with a part of the English army but on making his submission to William y Conqueror was allowed to retain his possessions till the year 1070. At this latter date he took part with the Northumbrians in their attempt to bring in the Danes and was dispossessed and shortly afterwards murdered.
William I after this event gave the Saxon earl's lands in the county palatine of Chester to Hugh Lupus who retained Adlington in his own hands probably as a hunting seat as it was noted for having seven game enclosures and four eyries at the time of the survey. Adlington appears to have remained an appenage of the succeeding Norman earls till the death of John Scott the seventh and last, when it passed to the crown in 21 Henry III.
Soon after, the manor was in the holding of Hugh de Corona and remained in this family till the reign of Edward III. Hugh de Corona was lord of Adlington temp Henry III and also the possessor of the manors of Little Neston Hargreave and Penisby-in-Wirral.
About the year 1270, Hugh de Corona gave his lands in Penisby, which he had shortly before purchased of Hugh the prior and the brethren of y hospital of St John of Chester, to his daughter Sarah and her heirs deed penes Legh. He also granted to Richard de Worth and his heirs all the land which Wasse de l Hope formerly held of him in the ville of Adlington and an enclosure for tillage adjacent to the said land ascending Holbrook and rendering thirteen shillings and sixpence at the feast of All Souls. The deed is without date but is attested by Sir Geoffrey de Chedle William de Baggiley John de Mottram and others who lived in the time of Edward I MS penes Legh.
These lands passed from the Worths to the Downes's and remained in the latter family till the year 1696 when they reverted to John Legh by purchase from Edward Downes. Hugh de Corona seems to have had a brother John whose name appears amongst the Tower charters in this same reign of Henry III Extunc terrae Joh is de Corona in cest.
Hugh de Corona married Amabilla the daughter of Sir Thomas de Bamville and left issue one son Hugh and two daughters Lucy and Sarah. Hugh de Corona, the second, of Adlington, married and left a son John who was lord of the manor of Adlington in the reign of Edward II. John de Corona held the manor of Adlington and the manor of little Neston. Thomas de Corona is his son and heir. Tower records 22 Edward II. The Christian name of John's wife was Margaret.
Thomas de Corona died unmarried about the middle of the reign of Edward III and so the male line failed. During his lifetime, by a deed without date, he gave to John de Lassells all the land which Lucy de Corona held of his inheritance in the ville of Newton in Wirrall and which came to him by the gift of his grandfather Hugh de Corona and all the land which Margaret who was wife of John de Corona held of his inheritance in Newton in Wirrall by gift of his father John de Corona. MS penes R Wood
Lucy, daughter of the first Hugh de Corona, married for second husband Sir William Baggiley and had issue by him one son, who died without issue, and two daughters named Ellen and Isabel which last married Sir John de Hyde. Nothing is known of Sarah the sister of Lucy and it seems likely that she either died single or if married left no offspring.
Ellen, daughter of Lucy de Corona, married Sir John Legh, son of Sir William Venables of Bradwell, and called de Legh from having been left to the care of his mother whose maiden name was Legh and which was also the name of the place where he was born and where he lived till his marriage. From this marriage the Leghs of Adlington descend. Sir John de Legh and Ellen his wife purchased Norbury Booths 28 Edward I and there fixed their residence. Sir John died in 1323 and his wife in 1350.
Thomas de Corona, the last of his line, having no issue, gave a moiety of Adlington to John and Ellen Legh for life with remainder to Robert, their second son, and his heirs by a deed bearing date in ye early part of ye reign of Edward II. Thomas de Corona grants to John de Legh and Ellen his wife all his part of the manor and vill of Adlington except the lands which Margaret his mother and Lucy, formerly wife of Hugh de Corona, had in dower to hold to the said John and Ellen for their lives. This John is probably the same who is called John de Adlington in a presentment against twelve persons for hunting in the king's forest with hounds and horns and destroying deer and finally joining in an affray with the keepers, 13 Edward II Ormerod
In 9 Edward II Thomas de Corona gave to John and Ellen Legh all the rest of his lands in Adlington previously held in dower by Lucy and Margaret. After this grant was made, Queen Isabella, wife of Edward II, seized Adlington manor alleging that Thomas de Corona had forfeited it to her by reason of the alienation having been made without her license as the same was held of her as of her manor of Macclesfield.
In 17 Edward II John de Legh being lately dead, Ellen his widow obtained a re-grant of the Adlington manor on her purchasing a pardon from the Queen. To this pardon a fair seal of Queen Isabella is affixed from which it would appear that the Queen held Macclesfield to her own separate use even whilst her husband was king.
After this exercise of prerogative on the Queen's part ,Thomas de Corona thought fit to make a further deed of grant, which he executed at Chester in 17 Edward III and in which he quit claimed to Robert de Legh senior and his heirs and assigns all the claim he ever had in the manor of Adlington. In witness whereof he affixed his seal in ye presence of the justice of Chester John de Legh Hugh de Venables Sir John Danyers Sir Thomas Danyers of Spurstow Robert de Bulkylegh and others.
Ellen de Legh continued in the enjoyment of the manor of Adlington till her death in 26 Edward III. By an inquisition held the same year it was found that she died seized of the manor of Adlington for life, held of the manor of Macclesfield in chief by the service of a fourth part of a knight's fee, and that Sir John de Legh was her heir.

2. Hugh I and Lucia had
3. Lucy de Corona c. 1265 - c. 1316 = Sir Knight William de Baguley, Lord of Baggiley c. 1260 - a. 1320, they had 4 children

Hugo I married as his 2nd wife = Lady Amabilla De Baumville a. 1225 - a. 1307, daughter of Sir Thomas de Baumville, Forester of Wirral a. 1195 - 1260 = Agnes de Stourton b. 1235 - 1310. Hugo and Amabilla had
1. Hugh II de Corona of Adlington, who follows
2. Thomas de Corona of Adlington 1245 - 1316 = Margaret NN
3. Sarah de Corona c. 1246 = NN Manley
4. Adam de Formby c. 1247 - a. 1327

...Hugh II de Corona of Adlington, Lord of Adlington c. 1243 - June 1291 married as his 1st wife = NN by whom he had

John de Corona, Lord of the Manor of Adlington and Little Neston c. 1260 - b. 1300 = Margaret NN, by whom he had

Thomas de Corona of Adlington Dec. 13, 1287 - 1316 = “the mother of Nicholas Baguley”.

...Hugh II married as his 2nd wife Lucy “Mrs Hugh” Corcana(?) c. 1276 - a. 1317 by whom he had

Eleanor "Ellen de Corona" de Baguley a. 1288 - July 1332 = Sir John "John de Venables, Joh'es Legh del Bouthes" de Legh of Norbury Booths 1282 - March 1324

So let’s correct the tree, we’re close. Lucy de Corona did not marry her brother!

I’m looking at http://cybergata.com/roots/5134.htm (Will give you an error message so don’t click)

Lucy, daughter of the first Hugh de Corona, married for a second husband, Sir William Baggiley, and had issue by him one son, who died without issue, and two daughters named Ellen and Isabel, which last married Sir John de Hyde.

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Hugh II married as his 2nd wife Lucy “Mrs Hugh” Corcana(?) c. 1276 - a. 1317 by whom he had Eleanor "Ellen de Corona" de Baguley …

Doesn’t make sense to me.

Ellen de Corona was “both” a Baggily and Corona heir, if I have it right.

Do you have Clemence de Cheadle with daughter Isabel as the first wife of William de Baggily (son of Ralph)?

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https://media.geni.com/p13/1a/62/65/c0/5344485fc2a6d2d4/jus67tep_original.jpg?hash=ab6534409e350762c23afb35cd87987ec087c3ea712b82f6d8def227e50eb543.1733385599

Has a different mother for Lucy.

Are these Baguely Boys sourceable?

John de Baguley de Baggilegh b 1290 d 1356

Sir Thomas de Baguley b 1306 m Lady Clementia Baguley

Sir William de Baguley, Jr. b 1310

Yes
Clemence of Cheadle "Clementia" de Dutton 1308-1327, daughter Lady Isabel "Isabel de Baguley" Baggiley 1326-1364 = Sir Thomas Daniell of Over Tabley, Knight 1353-1383

You may be right on Ellen de Baguley with parents named Corona-Corcana, I don’t think it simply a toponymic.

For John all I have is...
“ there was a Baggiley (Baguley) coat-of-arms vis: The lozenges were azure on an orange background. It is understood that this coat-of-arms was demolished when the property of John Baggiley (Baguley), Baguley Hall, was made over to Sir John Leigh of Booths near Knutsford around 1353.”

I don’t have a Thomas 1306 married to Clemence de Cheadle. Her first husband was Sir John de Molyneux

Sir William Baggelegh (de Baguley) b. 1295 = Clemence of Cheadle "Clementia" de Dutton 1308-1327. This William is son of Sir Knight William de Baguley, Lord of Baggiley = Lucy de Corona, could be referred to as Jr. and his birthdate is all over the place so my 1295 could just as easily be 1310.

I also have this note that says William was son of “Robert”? Don’t know where he fits it...
“ The 1580 Visitation of Cheshire has a pedigree under "Pro Leigh de
Lyme" which shows that Roger de CHEDLE, the son of Edwardus de
CHEDLE, married Mathildis and their daughters were Clementia who
married William, the son of Robert de BAGGULEGH ("Clementia
nupta Will'mo filio Robt de BAGGULEGH) and Agnes, the wife of
Richard, the son of Robert de BULKLEIGH ("Agnes vxor Ric'i filij
Rob'ti de BULKLEIGH).”

Also a big curiosity, this senior William who married Lucy... there is a niche of data that suggests he had a 2nd wife named Amice Goce b. 1222 or 1225 - 1316 with children William, Ellen and Isabel!!! Familiar names. This child William had a son Thomas who was married to “mother of Nicholas” same terminology as the other branch.

I’ve never been able to work this out! This Amice Goce is from a different county south of Cheshire, which seems odd, why would Sir Knight William go so far afield for a 2nd wife? But there are documents that talk about division of property after her fathers death, she apparently had three sisters whose husbands are identifiable and her husband is specifically named William de Baguley? This is all very confusing. Just Google Amice Goce and William de Baguley.