Godfrey Hambleton - Anyone have any updated information on Godfrey William Hambleton, said father to John Peter Coger?

By the way, J. Peter Coger is (probably) my 6th great aunt's husband.

I'm not sure what you mean by Godfrey Hambleton being documented on the DAR site, they don't list parents.

If I understand correctly there will never be written proof that Godfrey was the father of an illegitimate child.

My confusion is how can Godfrey be listed as J. Peter Coger's father without documentation. I'm a member of the DAR through my maternal grandmother's side and I had to provide proof of my lineage with birth, death and marriage certificates. J. Peter Coger is my 4th great grandfather on my father's side so I'm totally intrigued by the mystery surrounding John Peter's father. Obviously if Godfrey is the father than in actuality none of my family are really Cogar's. However many believe that J. Peter Coger was the child of Hans Jacob Koger, brother of John Nicholas Koger. I'm interested in finding the actual documentation. I have read that Dee Bright had information years ago but I can't find where she got her information. I live in New York State but have spent a fair amount of time traveling to West Virginia to research. I would gladly do more if I knew where to start. Thanks for any information you can provide.

Geni is a family tree site, not the DAR where one proves descent from a qualified patriot. I don't have primary records for many in my tree including myself, but there's pretty much no other conclusion that I am who my tree claims.

So I believe you're asking a different question: what is the evidence for the Geni tree claim that Peter Cogar was not the son of John Nicholas Koger? How can this be proved or disproved? I accepted the arguments posted by Dee Bright, attached to profiles here:

https://media.geni.com/p13/09/b0/18/60/5344483abb429557/17_original...

So it appears that Godfrey Hambleton wrote a will that should be obtainable from the local courthouse, but another step is interpreting that will for language used at that time and place. Dee's read of the will was that Hambleton named Peter his son, and named Jacob, his half brother, his son in law (that is, his step son).

Another step you could take is a DNA analysis. For instance, you could set up a comparison of male descendants of Godfrey Hambleton (or his brothers) with descendants of Nicholas Koger. It could also be possible that autosomnal DNA comparison could show it (or not) but it's getting distant from "now" so may not be as conclusive.

Dee Bright recapped her trip through the records here:

http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/koger/131/

The Pennsylvania Church records states differently.I have seen them and know they exist.

John Nicholas Koger was the father of

* (1) John, b. Sept. 3, 1736,
* (2) Anna Elisabetha, b. Dec. 2, 1738,
* (3) John Michael, b. Mar. 10, 1740,
* (4) John Jacob, b. Sept. 4, 1741,
* (5) Anna Catharina, b. May 17, 1743,

*(6) John Peter, b. Sept. 17, 1753, was born after the death of John Nicholas Koger to his widow Maria Elisabetha Wilheit who by then was living with Godfrey Hambleton and who is presumed to be the father to John Peter.

More discussion of Godfrey Hambleton and his relationship with the Cogers here

http://www.stevecoger.com/genealogy/william.htm

Thank you so much Erica! I have seen many of these documents in my research but not all. Your help is greatly appreciated!

It’s an interesting topic to revisit. I do think Dee was correct in pointing out that Jacob Coger being named son in law was misinterpreted by researchers, in other wills in that period I’ve read “son in law” referred to (what we now call) step son. Just to make it even more fun, I’ve seen wills referring to my son so & so - a daughters spouse. !!

Hambleton’s two wills are especially difficult. Bob Baird’s Filing Cabinet has articles that may help. I think you should also chase up Hambleton’s property in Botetourt as it might be a clue, especially since we don’t see Cogar’s in that county, I don’t think.

I also did a quick look into the Hambleton name & it’s not Scotch Irish, it’s Anglo Saxon.

!!!

With all the Cogars hasn’t there been DNA studies? May not be able to “prove / disprove” Hambleton as father but should be able to identify if Peter had the same father as his brothers, I would think.

I hope to plan a road trip in the spring or summer and will go to the areas that may have the actual information.
I don't know about any DNA studies as the family is so large and not well connected so it's hard to say. Sadly I lost my dad in 1983 so that's a major dead end.
I have read much of Steve Coger's papers and they have been filled with information.
I can only assume that Dee Bright is no longer involved on this site and it seems she had a wealth of information. 30 years of research is very impressive!

Billie June Keaffaber I see Starchers in this Cogar tree, do you know any of their descendants? Also if you run across a McElwaine still in West Virginia, get them to DNA test!

Cheryllyn Tallman I suspect Dee Cogar Bright is the same person as Delores Cogar Bright who contributed to the Braxton Historical Review on the Cowgar (once Cogar) family. If so she was born in 1924, a very long time ago, even for a family that claimed a 108 year old. :)

I wondered if they were the same. The sweet ladies that volunteer at the Gassaway library in West Virginia were incredibly helpful to me when I went there a few years ago-my dads hometown.

... which made me wonder what became of her files. I would think donated to a library or historical society. Maybe start with Braxton?

Good suggestion! Thank you!

Hello, Mr. Cogar supposed to be my 5th Grandparent, but I too have come across a few family trees listing Mr. Hambleton. I am really looking for my Granddad's side of the family Carlton "Carl" Howard AKA: Jigs