Jacomyntje \Jocomynite\Jacomyntie Gulick (van Pelt) - Need Help in cleaning up this area - connecting or unconnecting

Could these profiles be the correct ones for her parents

Teunis Jansen van Pelt

https://www.geni.com/people/Grietje-van-Pelt/600000000330143521

Just looking at the About of Jocomynite Magdalena Teunisse Gulick I think that we have two different women mashed together:

Magdalena (Jacomyntie) Teunissen van Pelt, wife of Joachim Gulik
Jacomyntje van Pelt, daughter of Aert Tunisz Laenen Van Pelt & Neeltje Janse van Tuyl

My first thought is that Teunissen = Tunisz , perhaps the wife of Gulick is a sister of the other woman's father.
It is even possible that there are two Joachim Gulik's married to two Jacomyntie van Pelts.

This looks like Aert Teunisse van Pelt , husband of Neeltje Janse van Tuyl, that we are considering. No daughters named Jacomyntie but then most of his children are missing from Geni it seems.

Here is the MP for Mrs Gulick Jocomynite Magdalena Teunisse Gulick

There is also an MP for her sister (?) Jacomyntje Laenen who apparently died young.

For the sake of posterity:

Jacomyntje "magdalena" van Pelt
* MyHeritage Family Trees
* Bajjalieh_Hawn - Smith_Lee Fa052016 in Bajjalieh Family Site (23andMe), managed by Richard (Contact)
* Birth: 1656 - Tuil, Neerijnen, Gelderland, Netherlands
* Death: 1698 - Long Island City, Queens, New York, United States
* Parents: Teunis Jansen Vanpelt, Griet Vanpelt (born Jans)
* Siblings: Jan Teunissen Vanpelt, Jan Teunissen Vanpelt, Wouter Teunis Vanpelt, Teuntje Thyse Vanpelt, Jacomyntie Teunisse Lanen Van Pelt, Jacomyntie Vanpelt, Anthony Teunisse Van Pelt, Pieter Degroot Vanpelt, Hendrick Teunisse Lanen Van Pelt, Aert Vanpelt, Aerte Adrien Vanpelt, Elisabeth Teunisse Vanpelt, Aert Teunnise Lanen Van Pelt, Wouter Teunisse Lanen Van Pelt, Rebecca Vanpelt, Petroneltje Teunisse Lanen Van Pelt, Marritie Vanpelt, Marritie Van Pelt, Hendrick Teunisse Van Pelt

Jacomyntje Gulick (born van Pelt)

MyHeritage Family Trees
* doughman Web Site, managed by <unknown> doughman
* Parents: Teunis Jansen Van Pelt, Unknown Van Pelt
* Husband: Jochem Gulick
* Children: Hendrick Gulick, Johannes Gulick, Peter Gulick

Jacomyntje Gulick (born van Pelt)

MyHeritage Family Trees
* Wallace Web Site, managed by Jarrett Griffin
* Birth: 1652 - Buren, Buren, Gelderland, Netherlands
* Death: 1723 - Gravesend, Kings, New York, United States
* Parents: Teunis Jansen Van Pelt, Grietje Janse Van Pelt (born Anthoines)
* Siblings: Anthony Teunisse Van Pelt, Hendrick Van Pelt, Wouter Van Pelt, Aert Adriaen Van Pelt
* Husband: Jochem Gulick
* Children: Benjamin Gulick, Hendrick Gulick, John Gulick, William Gulick, Geertruyt Gulick, Teunis Gulick, Catelyntie Gulick, Samuel Gulick, Jochem Gulick, Pieter Gulick, Grietje Gulick, Jacomyntie Gulick, Johannes Gulick
* Jacomyntje Gulick (born van Pelt)

MyHeritage Family Trees
* Williams, Rosa, Nole, Summa Tr in Williams Web Site, managed by Richard Williams
* Death: 1723
* Parents: Teunis Jansen Lanen Van Pelt, Greitje Jans Van Pelt (born Otter)
* Siblings: <Private> Van Pelt, Aerte Tennise Landen Van Pelt, Anthony Teunisse Van Pelt, <Private> Dela Montange (born Van Pelt)
* Husband: Jochim Gulick

Jacomyntje Gulick (born van Pelt)
* MyHeritage Family Trees
* Jones2013 in Sipes Web Site, managed by Chris Westcott
* Birth: May 22 1699
* Parents: *aert Tunisz Laenen Van Pelt, *neeltje Janse Van Pelt (born Van Tuyl)
* Siblings: Jan Aertse Van Pelt, Griete Sutphen (born Van Pelt), *geertruy Sutphen (born Van Pelt), Catherine Van Pelt, Elizabeth Wyckoff (born Van Pelt), Neeltje Cortelyou (born Van Pelt), Tunis Van Pelt, Petrus Van Pelt, Aert Aertse Van Pelt
* Husband: Jochem Gulick
* Daughter: Jocomina Hoogland (born Gulick)
* Jacomyntje Gulick (born van Pelt)

MyHeritage Family Trees
* Evert Family Tree in Evert Web Site, managed by Donna Dunn
* Birth: 1652 - Buren, Buren, Gelderland, Netherlands
* Death: 1723 - Gravesend, LI, New York
* Parents: Teunis Jansen Lanen Van Pelt, Grietje Jans Van Pelt (born Anthoines)
* Husband: Jochem Gulick
* Son: Hendrick Gulick

Jacomyntje Gulick (born van Pelt)
* MyHeritage Family Trees
* Bro Web Site, managed by Charles Bro
* Birth: May 22 1699
* Parents: *aert Tunisz Laenen Van Pelt, *neeltje Janse Van Pelt (born Van Tuyl)
* Siblings: Jan Aertse Van Pelt, Griete Sutphen (born Van Pelt), *geertruy Sutphen (born Van Pelt), Catherine Van Pelt, Elizabeth Wyckoff (born Van Pelt), Neeltje Aertse Cortelyou (born Van Pelt), Tunis Van Pelt, Petrus Van Pelt, Aert Aertse Van Pelt
* Jacomyntje Gulick (born van Pelt)

MyHeritage Family Trees
* Banta Web Site, managed by Nancy Banta
* Birth: Circa 1654 - Gelderland
* Death: 1723 - New Utrecht, Kings County, New York
* Parents: Teunis Jansen Lanen (Anthonius) Van Pelt (Laenen ), Grietje Van Pelt (Laenen ) (born Antonis (Jans))
* Siblings: Jan Teunissen Lanen Van Pelt, Hendrick Teunise Van Pelt, Wouter Teunise Van Pelt, Anthony Teunise Van Pelt, Aerte Teunissen Lanen Van Pelt
* Husband: Jochem Gulick
* Children: Pieter Gulick, Grietje Willemsen (born Gulick)

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* Reference: [https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-325616581-1-502546/jac... MyHeritage Family Trees] - [https://www.geni.com/projects/SmartCopy/18783 SmartCopy]: ''Oct 13 2017, 18:58:25 UTC''

* Reference: [https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-275967041-1-500973/jac... MyHeritage Family Trees] - [https://www.geni.com/projects/SmartCopy/18783 SmartCopy]: ''Oct 13 2017, 19:24:08 UTC''

I have a theory based on the text in Teunis Jansen van Pelt's profile:

3. Jacomyntje Teunisse Lanen Van Pelt
bap/chr 18 May 1651 Tuil, Gelderland, Netherlands - dy bef '63

6. Jacomymtje Van Pelt ca 1656 Feydersweeof -
married ca 1676 Jochem Gulick
d ca 1723 of Gravesend, Kings Co, NY will was dated 20 Dec 1711 - prob: 26 Aug 1723
a. Pieter Gulick bapt. 22 Sept 1689 Flatbush, Kings Co NY -

IF this is accurate and there were two daughters named Jacomyntje baptised within a few years of each other I am thinking that the second daughter was given the middle name Magdalena in order to differentiate them. Then in later life Mrs Gulick, for reasons unknown, flitted between favouring each name as evidenced by the baptism records of her children (that I have managed to find so far):

1681 Jan 01; Joachim Gulik, Magdalena Tunis; (blank); Grietie Jans, Wouter Tunis van Pelt [12]
1685 Apr 05; Joachim Gulik, Magdalena van Pelt; Samuel; Aard Teunisz van Pelt, Jannetie van Borkelo [12]
1687 Feb 06; Joachim Gulik, Jacomyntie Thuunisse; Joachim; Neeltie Jansen van Tuyl [12]
1689 Sep 22; Joachem Gulick, Magdalena (Jacomyntie) Teunissen; Peter; Jan Teunissen, Elizabeth Tunissen van Pelt [12]

Okay - this is what started this this all the working back down to where i started from - at Isaac Gulick & Abigail Vandeventer

Jochem Gulick, I Husband of Jocomynite Magdalena Teunisse Gulick (Laenen)

Jochem Gulick, II Geertie \ Geertje Janse

Jacob Gulick Maria Sebring (van Arsdale \ Vanarsdalen)

Isaac Gulick Husband of Abigail VanDeventer

that's when the profiles of Added by: Brett Meador on March 17, 2016 popped up

Benjamin Van Pelt was one of my grandfathers.
This is about all I can add to the discussion.

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000015772975180?return=dupli... needs differentiating please---
Geertyd Janse van Pelt and Grietje Jans are not the same and both show married to Teunis Jansen van Pelt

It is going to take more than a disconnect from spouse.

Geertyd Janse van Pelt 's About says

Aboutedit | history
Geertryd Janse VanLent, (widow of Jan Otten VanTuil) was 4th wife of Teunis Jansen Lanen VanPelt. Teunis & Geertryd were married on 6 Aug 1696 in Manhattan, New York Co, NY. She had 8 children by her first husband.

1696 06 Aug; Theunis Lanen, wid Griet Jans; Geertruyd Jans, wid Jan Otto, d'eerste op N. Uytrecht; tweede alhier. getrouwt tot N. Uytrecht;

Wife of Jan Otten van Tuyl

Mother of

Otto van Tuyl;
Neeltje Jans van Tuyl;
Elizabeth van Tuyl;
Antie [Anna Jans, Annetje Janse] van Tuyl;
Abraham Van Tuyl;
Aert van Tuyl;
Isaac Van Tuyl;
and [wife of] Theunis Janse Lenen Van Pelt

Mother of

Teuntje Van Pelt;
Rebecca Van Pelt and
Elizabeth Van Pelt

which would mean the two MP'd profiles will need merged

Teunis Jansen van Pelt married twice and he is showing Grietje with three profiles.
Grietje Jans
Grietje van Pelt
Geertyd Janse van Pelt

Teunis Van Pelt emigrated from Liege, Belgium in March, 1663 on the ship Rosetree. This group settled in the
southwestern part of Long Island in what is now Brooklyn. The community was called New Utrecht. It was located
about 1.5 miles north of what is now Coney Island and about one mile west of the narrows separating Long Island
from Staten Island.

Teunis Van Pelt was the principal founder of the New Utrecht settlement and became “patron” or mayor. The wife
of Teunis was Grietje. They had six children and a brother Matthias (Thys) Jansen Van Pelt.

Anthony Van Pelt was baptized Teunis Van Pelt, married Marie Drageau and settled on Staten Island around 1700.
This may have been a son of the original Van Pelt immigrant … or … possibly a Swaim descendent that took on the
surname of Van Pelt. This is unclear. The account that Anthony was a descendent of the Van Pelt immigrant was
put forward by Orra Eugene Monnette in First Settlers of Ye Plantations of Piscataway and Woodbridge, Olde East
New Jersey 1664-1714 published in 1934. It is also described in Mabel Wood Swaim’s book The Swaim Family.
Some claimed that not all Swaim’s descend from Thys Barentsen and that some descend from Anthony Teunissen
Van Pelt. There are also family stories passed down that mentions the name change from Van Pelt to Swaim.
Note: The 2007 Swaim Y-DNA study included a descendant of Teunis Jansen Lanen. None of the Swaim
descendants from North Carolina ancestors matched the Van Pelt descendent. This study disproved a Swaim – Van Pelt connection.

The DNA results rules out that this Anthony Swaim descends from the Van Pelt immigrant. However it does not
necessarily rule out that a Barentsen descendent (or his descendents) could have used a surname of Van Pelt for a
period of time before the descendents began using Swaim as a surname. The documented surnames used by
Barentsen descendents were quite chaotic in the 1600s and early 1700s.

The key point is that essentially all Swaims in the United States descend from Mathijs Barentsz aka Thys Barentsen.

http://www.jswaim.com/family/Swaim_Genealogy.pdf page 161
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Teunis Jansen van Pelt

Alex Moes thank you for looking.