John Fennel King - John King 1732 son of John King

The John King I am tied to , to the best of my knowledge, is the John King t=
hat was tied to Mary Stowell. John King was the brother of my Great Great Gr=
eat Grandfather Joseph Ashley King. Joseph was married to Nancy Baker, they h=
ad a son named James Henry King my Great Great Grandfather. He was a civil w=
ar veteran, wounded, captured and then later released after the war never to=
return to NC. Therefore, his family thought he never survived. We have made=
a DNA match with John Kings family line the brother to James H king. I pers=
onally have made a research trip to NC. Doing some deeper research to see if=
you and I are connected. Would be wonderful to find out that we are cousins=
.

Thanks,
M. King Jr.

I think we need to "un-tie" Enoch King from John King who married Mary Stowell (by the way, it was the Stowell Book, not the Stowell Bible that the person I spoke with used as a source to disprove the link to Enoch King. Bear with me. The following is a thread of emails, oldest at the bottom, with two ladies, back in 2000. Please check the dates on the messages. There may be duplicates, but I don't want to miss anything:

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From: David and Nickie Cheney [mailto:dcheney@cptelco.net]
Sent: July-08-00 6:50 PM
To: Joan King <jking2000@home.com>
Subject: Re: Mary Stowell-John King

The information in the book says that Elizabeth Stowell (d/o David Stowell) died young?! So she couldn't have married John King, maybe it was a cousin of Mary Stowell King?! Let me know what you think.
Nickie

Joan King wrote:

> Hi Nickie,
>
> Thanks so much for getting back to me. Whether you realize it or not,
> this is a huge help to me. This helps me probably "disqualify" Mary
> Stowell and John King 1690 as my ancestors. It's kind of a shame,
> because I was beginning to grow attached. ;-) And they are the
> grandparents of Rufus King, to whom my aunt always said we were
> related. (That doesn't mean she was right.) Actually, the LDS site
> gives four names of children you don't have listed: Isaac, born June
> 18, 1730; Malatiah, born July 2, 1732; John, born Aug 13, 1732, and
> Samuel, born Apr. 29, 1734. The OTHER John King on the LDS site
> married Mary Clift, and his children were supposedly John, born Aug
> 13, 1732, Thomas, christened Feb 22, 1736/7, and Lydiah, christened
> July 2, 1738. I have a funny feeling that John 1732 doesn't belong to
> either, because his AFN number is quite different. Anyway, back to
> sleuthing.... Thanks so much for your help. It may be that there's a
> relationship farther back, or, as you say, through a different wife.
> "Your" John King also married Elizabeth Stowell, the sister of Mary,
> but I haven't been able to track down any children. It may well be
> that they belong to her. Hey, you don't have anything about the children of Elizabeth, do you?
>
> At 08:26 PM 2000-07-08 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi Joan,
> >
> >This is what I found:
> >
> >Mary Stowell b.p. in Watertown, Mass. on November 20, 1709 d. March 7, 1770 m.
> >in Boston, Mass. on April 2, 1718 to John King (his second marriage)
> >their
> >children:
> >
> >1)Richard King b. in Boston, Mass. in 1718 2)Mary King b. in Boston,
> >Mass. on June 8, 1719 3)Sarah King b. February 27, 1720 4)Mehitable
> >King d. May 15, 1810 5)William King b.p. June 27, 1725 6)David King
> >b.p. August 12, 1726 7)Rebecca King b.p. November 10, 1728 8)Josiah
> >King b.p.April 4, 1731 9)Martha King b.p. September 22, 1733
> >10)Katherine b.p. May 23, 1736
> >
> >Unfortunately I don't have who his first wife was or their
> >children(if they even had any). But if they did it could be that one
> >of their children had the John King you are looking for. That is
> >unless the Stowell book miss putting one child in, which is also
> >another possibility. If I can help you any more let me know, and Good
> >Luck!
> >Nickie
> >
> >Joan King wrote:
> >
> > > Hello Nickie,
> > >
> > > I saw your messages on the Stowell Family at FamilyHistory.com,
> > > and you said you have a lot of the Stowell genealogy. Would you
> > > perhaps do me a favor and take a look and see if you can find Mary
> > > Stowell, daughter of David Stowell and Mary Stedman, christened
> > > Nov 20 1709, and married to John King on April 2, 1718 in Boston?
> > > What I'm interested in especially is when and where this John King
> > > was born, if you have that information, and the names and birthdates of their children.
> > >
> > > I am a descendant of John King, born Aug. 13, 1732, in Ashfield,
> > > MA, who is possibly the son of this couple.
> > >
> > > Thank you so much.
> > >
> > > Joan King
> > > jking2000@home.com
> >
Hi Joan,

Yes I have The Book. Tis no bother to me and feel free to contact or refer contacts to me anytime. I'm delighted to aide you on your quest and will get back to you with an answer by the end of today (or tomorrow at the latest).

I just connected to the web a short while ago and will have to stretch a bit soon but will return after rejuvenating from sitting here for a while.

I'm sure the answer to your question definintely is in the book.

Mary Stowell zbria@earthlink.net
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At 07:58 AM 7/9/00 -0700, you wrote:
>
>Hello Mary,
>
>I hope this is not a bother.
>
>I saw Regina's messages (RKP2000@aol.com) on the Stowell Family at
>FamilyHistory.com, and I contacted her. The copy of the book she has
>is missing some pages--the ones I probably need. She said you have a
>book of the Stowell genealogy, and suggested that I contact you. Would
>you perhaps do me a favor and take a look and see if you can find Mary
>Stowell, daughter of David Stowell and Mary Stedman, christened Nov 20
>1709, and married to John King on April 2, 1718 in Boston? What I'm
>interested in especially is when and where this John King was born, if
>you have that information, and the names and birth dates of their children.
>
>I am a descendant of John King, born Aug. 13, 1732, in Ashfield, MA,
>who is possibly the son of this couple.
>
>Thank you for your attention.
>Joan King
>jking2000@home.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: MStowell [mailto:zbria@earthlink.net]
Sent: July-09-00 4:30 PM
To: jking2000@home.com
Subject:

Joan,

David Stowell is of 2nd generation, son of Samuel of 1st generation (USA) who sailed over here.

Mary Stedman is David's 2nd wife (first wife died after two children). Mary Stowell is the 2nd child between David/Mary, with a total of ten children produced between them though the first two were from David's first marriage.

David/Mary's daughter, Mary Stowell married John King April 2, 1718, and this marriage is confirmed through birth/probate court records (as a result of a confusion with another Mary who was married to a William Stowell. Also David's first wife was also Mary (guess he like the name Mary).

Mary Stowell is John King's 2nd wife. John King, born in Kent, England, came to Boston in the latter part of the 17th century. He had five children by his first wife (being John, Elizabeth, William, Richard and Lydia, though Richard died when three years old). His eldest child by his second wife, Mary Stowell, was also named Richard. These two Richards have led to some confusion as to which was the maternal ancestor of the many prominent descendantsof Richard King of Scarboro, but it was unquestionably Mary Stowell. The exact birth date of Mary's husband, John King is not shown or known.

Mary Stowell King was admittd to New North Church, Boston, June 29, 1725.

Anyway, children by Mary Stowell King/John King (married 4/2/1718) are as
follows:

Richard (b. Boston Mass, 1718; d. Scarboro, Me, 3/27/1775, age 57; m.
Scarboro, Me., 11/29/1753, Sebella (Isabella) Bragdon, dau. of Samuel and _______ (Banks) Bragdon of York, Me., b. there 4/8/1731, d. Scarboro, Me., 10/19/1759, age 28. Richard's 2nd wife is Mary Black and married 1/31/1762.
(Children of Richard and Sebella is Rufus King, born in Scarboro, Me., 3/24/1755, and he had a son by name of John Alsop King born 1/3/1788 - and he is the only other John King in this book).

Mary (b. Boston, Mass, 6/8/1719; m. 6/25/1738 to Joseph Granery of Casco Bay, Me.)

Sarah (b. Boston, Mass, 2/27/1720-1)

Mehitable (birth unknown)

William (b. Boston, Mass. 6/27/1725; m. 11/6/1751 Mary Goldwait)

David (b. Boston, Mass. 8/12/1726; m. Elizabeth Gray)

Rebecca (b. Boston, Mass., bp. 11/10/1728)

Josiah (b. Boston, Mass., bp. 4/4/1731)

Martha (b. Boston, Mass., bp. 9/2/1733)

Katherine (bp. 5/23/1736)

There is no child born or baptized from John King/Mary Stowell King during 1732. This family's location of settlement is obvious from the above, and Ashfield, MA, is never mentioned. This is the only King ever married into Stowell family.

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YOU WROTE:

Mary Stowell, daughter of David Stowell and Mary Stedman, christened Nov 20 1709, and married to John King on April 2, 1718 in Boston? What I'm interested in especially is when and where this John King was born, if you have that information, and the names and birth dates of their children.

I am a descendant of John King, born Aug. 13, 1732, in Ashfield, MA, who is possibly the son of this couple.
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From: MStowell [mailto:zbria@earthlink.net]
Sent: July-11-00 6:56 PM
To: J King <jking2000@home.com>
Subject: Re:

Hi Joan,

What or where is the LDS site? Would like to check that out. It is interesting that John King/Mary Stowell are listed in my book and showed the exact date of marriage as you mentioned. Her mother (Mary) and father Stowell did have a lot of children and her mother was 2nd wife of Stowell with the first wife having died after two children born though the book shows total number of children because Stowell is the father of all of them though one must bear in mind the first two were from the first wife. It also noted that John King came here from Kent, England, and that Mary Stowell was his 2nd wife. The only thing not shown was a chld of the year you mentioned and that surprised me because everything else you mentioned was exactly shown in the book.

Mary zbria@earthlink.net
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At 09:59 PM 7/9/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Dear Mary,
>
>Thank you so much for going to the trouble of looking this up for me.
>I came across a page at the LDS site which listed two sets of parents
>for "my" John King (1732), both John's and Mary's (one was Mary
>Stowell, the other, Mary Clift). This was on the SAME page, of all
>things. They have
>14 children listed under both couples, so it was very confusing. Plus
>the site has "your" John King as having been born in Plymoth, but
>having his son as Richard, the father of the famous Rufus King. I saw
>in one of Rufus King's biographies on the Net that his grandfather was
>from Kent, England, so I was even more confused. Well, thank goodness,
>your book has cleared up everything for me. Now I have to figure out if
>Mary Clift and the other John King (different dates) were the parents
>of "my" John King. There seems to be another set of John-Mary: Mary
>Bangs, who is the mother of two of the children wrongly attributed to
>Mary Stowell. Perhaps this is your first wife. She was the mother,
>apparently of Isaac King, June 18, 1730, and Malatiah, b. July 2, 1732,
>but these children would have been born AFTER Mary Stowell's, so that
>probably is not the case. Oh, and I have a date for Mehitable, only
>the LDS site has her as "Mahitable": Born Dec. 9,
>1735 in Boston, Suffolk, MA.
>
>Anyway, thanks so much for your help. It has helped me narrow down my search.
>
>Take care.
>
>
>
>At 07:29 PM 2000-07-09 -0400, you wrote:
>>Joan,
>>
>>David Stowell is of 2nd generation, son of Samuel of 1st generation
>>(USA) who sailed over here.
>>
>>Mary Stedman is David's 2nd wife (first wife died after two children).
>>Mary Stowell is the 2nd child between David/Mary, with a total of ten
>>children produced between them though the first two were from David's first marriage.
>>
>>David/Mary's daughter, Mary Stowell married John King April 2, 1718,
>>and this marriage is confirmed through birth/probate court records (as
>>a result of a confusion with another Mary who was married to a William
>>Stowell. Also David's first wife was also Mary (guess he like the name Mary).
>>
>>Mary Stowell is John King's 2nd wife. John King, born in Kent,
>>England, came to Boston in the latter part of the 17th century. He
>>had five children by his first wife (being John, Elizabeth, William,
>>Richard and Lydia, though Richard died when three years old). His
>>eldest child by his second wife, Mary Stowell, was also named Richard.
>>These two Richards have led to some confusion as to which was the
>>maternal ancestor of the many prominent descendantsof Richard King of
>>Scarboro, but it was unquestionably Mary Stowell. The exact birth date
>>of Mary's husband, John King is not shown or known.
>>
>>Mary Stowell King was admittd to New North Church, Boston, June 29, 1725.
>>
>>Anyway, children by Mary Stowell King/John King (married 4/2/1718) are
>>as
>>follows:
>>
>>Richard (b. Boston Mass, 1718; d. Scarboro, Me, 3/27/1775, age 57; m.
>>Scarboro, Me., 11/29/1753, Sebella (Isabella) Bragdon, dau. of Samuel
>>and _______ (Banks) Bragdon of York, Me., b. there 4/8/1731, d.
>>Scarboro, Me., 10/19/1759, age 28. Richard's 2nd wife is Mary Black and married 1/31/1762.
>>(Children of Richard and Sebella is Rufus King, born in Scarboro, Me.,
>>3/24/1755, and he had a son by name of John Alsop King born 1/3/1788 -
>>and he is the only other John King in this book).
>>
>>Mary (b. Boston, Mass, 6/8/1719; m. 6/25/1738 to Joseph Granery of
>>Casco Bay, Me.)
>>
>>Sarah (b. Boston, Mass, 2/27/1720-1)
>>
>>Mehitable (birth unknown)
>>
>>William (b. Boston, Mass. 6/27/1725; m. 11/6/1751 Mary Goldwait)
>>
>>David (b. Boston, Mass. 8/12/1726; m. Elizabeth Gray)
>>
>>Rebecca (b. Boston, Mass., bp. 11/10/1728)
>>
>>Josiah (b. Boston, Mass., bp. 4/4/1731)
>>
>>Martha (b. Boston, Mass., bp. 9/2/1733)
>>
>>Katherine (bp. 5/23/1736)
>>
>>There is no child born or baptized from John King/Mary Stowell King
>>during 1732. This family's location of settlement is obvious from the
>>above, and Ashfield, MA, is never mentioned. This is the only King
>>ever married into Stowell family.
>>
>>
>>
>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>--------
>>YOU WROTE:
>>
>>Mary Stowell, daughter of David Stowell and Mary Stedman, christened
>>Nov 20 1709, and married to John King on April 2, 1718 in Boston?
>>What I'm interested in especially is when and where this John King was
>>born, if you have that information, and the names and birth dates of their children.
>>
>>I am a descendant of John King, born Aug. 13, 1732, in Ashfield, MA,
>>who is possibly the son of this couple.
>
>Joan King
>jking2000@home.com

More (newer) in my next message....

-----Original Message-----
From: J King [mailto:jking2000@home.com]
Sent: None
To: Arlene J. King <thekings@crocker.com>
Subject: Re: King Family

Here are some of my notes on John King born August 11, 1704, that might interest you: Marriage date is NOT April 02, 1718 (That is for a John King who married Mary Stowell, and that is not the correct John King)The LDS Family Search has John King down as being married twice. I have discarded the idea that he was married to Mary Stowell after corresponding with her family. I think John, 1732, was probably the son of Mary Clift.
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http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/scituate/rr02/rr02_302.html#P925

John King. Born on 11 Aug 1704 in Marshfield, MA.82 John was baptized in the Second Church of Scituate on 1 or 3 Apr 1705.44 John died in Dutchess Co., NY. Occupation: Farmer. John bought on 16 Dec 1740 the tenth pew in the Marshfield church. He was a farmer and had a share in the division of his father's lands in 1747, and the same year sold his homestead there and removed to Norwich, CT, where he bought a farm of 62 acres with buildings. In 1766 he sold his Norwich property and removed to Dutchess county, NY, where he died. Children, born in Marshfield: John 10 Feb 1731, Thomas 17 Apr 1736, Lydia 1738, William 5 Apr 1740, and Mary.5 On 30 Jan 1730 when John was 25, he married Mary Clift, daughter of William Clift &amp; Lydia Wills (1676-).5 Born ca 1710. Mary was baptized in the Second Church of Scituate on 21 Aug 1715.
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Godfrey Memorial Library, Middletown, CT: “King, Joseph (4) King (John 3. Thomas 2. 1) son of John and Mary (Clift) King, was born at Marshfield, Mass., Dec. 17, 1707, married (intentions at Scituate, Mass. Nov. 25, 1733).”
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NOTES ON JOHN KING Born April 01, 1677 (father of the above)
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Hannah (AFN: R1JJ-LS) Marriage: 1700 Marshfield, Coventry, Mass. Spouse: Elizabeth (AFN: QFR7-BP) Marriage: 1702 Marshfield, Coventry, Mass. Spouse: Rebecca (AFN: MWCP-8W) Marriage: Spouse: Elizabeth PERCY (AFN: R1JJ-N5) Marriage: Spouse: Rebekah (Nee?) (AFN: T2FS-5H) Marriage: Spouse: Susan KING (AFN: 1LMM-14T)
Marriage: From Roots Web
http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&amp;amp;db=... </a>:

ID: I3043
Name: John KING 1
Sex: M
Birth: 1 APR 1677 in Scituate, Massachusetts
Death: 18 SEP 1723 in Providence, Rhode Island
Father: Thomas (Jr.) KING b: 21 JUN 1645 in Scituate, Massachusetts
Mother: Elizabeth CLAPP b: ABT. 1648 in Scituate, Massachusetts Marriage 1 Rebecca
Married: 1702 in Scituate, Massachusetts Children John (Jr.) KING b: 11 AUG 1704 in Marshfield, Massachusetts Sources:
Title: King Genealogy, 1897
Author: King, Harvey B.
Repository:
Call Number:
Media: Book

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http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/scituate/rr01/rr01_371.html#P804

John King. Born in Apr 1677 in Scituate, MA.44 John died in 1721 in Marshfield, MA.5 John's will was dated 5 May 1721. In 1730 guardians were appointed for Elisha, Anne, and Thomas King, children of John King, late of Marshfield.5
Deane21 says John m. Sarah Whiton of Hingham 1706. John married Rebecca [King]. They had the following children:
4223 i. John (1704-)
4224 ii. Rebecca (1706-)
4225 iii. Joseph (1707-)
4226 iv. Benjamin (1710-1785)
4227 v. Jerusha (1711-)
4228 vi. Thomas (1713-)
4229 vii. Anne (ca1715-)
4230 viii. Elisha (1717-1737)
4231 ix. Elizabeth (1720-1735)
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NOTES ON THOMAS KING Born June 21, 1645 (Father of John 1677):
LDS Film Number: 457768
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Dea. Thomas King. Born on 21 Jun 1645 in Scituate, MA.16 Thomas died in Scituate, MA on 1 Dec 1711; he was 66.44 “Thomas and Elizabeth resided on the north side of Rotten March, but before 1680 Deacon King purchased Nathaniel Rawlins' farm at Stony Cove Brook, and built the house now (1936) standing in ruins.”3 Thomas was a deacon of the church since the death of Deacon Thomas Robinson in 1676.3 “Dea. Thomas King's will, dated 1711, gives 'to son Daniel the homestead; (of Elder Thomas King, late deceased, on the neck); he allowing daughter Anne to live in the house. To son John a farm in Marshfield. To son George the farm where I now dewll, also a lot adjoining my brother Samuel Clap's land. To daughter Mercy Winslow 30£. To daughter Anne King 30£. To son Ichabod, &amp;c.'“21 On 20 Apr 1669 when Thomas was 23, he first married Elizabeth Clap (596) , daughter of Dea. Thomas Clap (182) (1597-20 Apr 1684), in Scituate, MA.77 Elizabeth died on 18 Mar 1698 in Scituate, MA.44 They had the following children:
1882 i. Sarah (1670-)
1883 ii. Thomas (Died as Infant) (1671-1673)
1884 iii. Jane (1673-)
1885 iv. Daniel (1675-)
1886 v. John (1677-1721)
1887 vi. Mercy (1678-)
1888 vii. Ichabod (1680-)
1889 viii. George (1682-1754)
1890 ix. Ebenezer (1685-)
1891 x. Anna (1684-)

On 15 Jun 1699 when Thomas was 53, he second married Deborah Hawke (514) , daughter of Matthew Hawke (162) (1610-11 Dec 1684)
Margaret Nelson (-18 Mar 1684), in Scituate, MA.44 Born ca 1651. Deborah was baptized in Hingham, MA on 22 Mar 1651/2.26 Deborah died on 15 May 1711 in Scituate, MA.44
http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/scituate/rr01/rr01_168.html#P660
Sources:
3. L. Vernon Briggs, History and Genealogy of the Briggs Family, 1254-1937, 1938, Three volumes. 16. “Plymouth Colony vital records,” Mayflower Descendant, Transcribed by George Ernest Bowman, various volumes. 21. Samuel Deane, History of Scituate, Massachusetts, from Its First Settlement to 1831. 44. Vital Records of Scituate, Massachusetts to the Year 1850, NEHGS, Boston, 1909, two volumes. 77. Marriages at Scituate, Mass., Prior to 1700.
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NOTES ON THOMAS KING Born February 24, 1612/13 (Father of the above Thomas, born 1645):
http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/scituate/rr01/rr01_063.html#P789
Sources:
Vital Records of Scituate, Massachusetts to the Year 1850, NEHGS, Boston, 1909, two volumes. William Cutter, Genealogical and Personal Memoirs relating to the families of the state of Massachusetts, 1910. Samuel Deane, History of Scituate, Massachusetts, from Its First Settlement to 1831. (Will) L. Vernon Briggs, History and Genealogy of the Briggs Family, 1254-1937, 1938, Three volumes. “Plymouth Colony vital records,” Mayflower Descendant, Transcribed by George Ernest Bowman, various volumes Elder Thomas King. Born in 1613. Thomas died on 24 Sep 1691 in Scituate, MA.44 Thomas King sailed from London 17 Jun 1635 in the ship Blessing at the age of 21 in the company of Mr. William Vassall and family, whose wife was Anna, Thomas's sister. He built his house on the top of the hill at Bell house neck, a few rods south of Mr. Vassall's He was admitted to the church 25 Feb 1638. He succeeded Elder William Hatch as elder in the Second Church. Thomas's second wife was the widow of Elder Hatch. Thomas also had lands on the north side of Rotten marsh. After the death of Elder Thomas King, the office of Ruling Elder was allowed to lapse, and the duties of that office were merged with those of deacon.5 21 3 “Elder King's will, dated 1691 [30 Jun and proved 16 mar 1692], gives 'to wife Anne-to daughter Sarah Besby land at Gravelly beach-To grandsons John and Thomas Rogers 10 £ each. Item: it is my will that Robin, my negro, be set free, and receive of my estate a bed and 5 £ in money-Item: to son Thomas all my property not otherwise disposed of in New and Old England.'“
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NOTES ON GEORGE KING Born Abt. 1567 (Father of Thomas, 1612, above)
From
http://aleph0.clarku.edu/~djoyce/gen/scituate/rr_src.html#C3
Source: L. Vernon Briggs, History and Genealogy of the Briggs Family, 1254-1937, 1938, Three volumes. ----------------------
Marriage: To Johanne
LDS Film 1985697
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LDS:
Maybe?
George Kinge Compact Disc #3
Sex: M Birth: abt 1567 Place: Of Woodham Morti,Essex,ENGLAND Death: 7 Dec 1625 Place:
Marriage(s):
Spouse: Mrs Joane Kinge Disc #3
Submitter:
KENNETH AND LILA BISBEE (---)
245 YELLOWSTONE AVENUE #3, CODY, WY 82414
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Warner Brown Family - Virginia to Arkansas
29162 total entries, last updated Sun Jul 9 15:25:40 2000 Linda Medley LAAYMEDLEY@aol.com
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ID: I20717
Name: George* KINGE
Sex: M
Birth: 1567 in England, Essex, Woodham Mortimer
Death: 07 DEC 1625 in England, Essex
Father: Thomas KING
Mother: Ann _____

Marriage 1 Jean* LORRAN b: CA 1571 in England
Married: CA 1592 in England, Essex, Cold Norton Children
Anna* KING b: 01 DEC 1594 in England, Essex, Woodham Mortimer George KINGE b: CA 1595 in England, Essex, Woodham Mortimer Thomas KINGE b: CA 1597 in England, Essex, Woodham Mortimer Daniel KINGE b: CA 1599 in England, Essex, Woodham Mortimer
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ID: I45839
Name: Jean Or Joane LORRAN
Sex: F
Birth: Abt 1569 in Of Woodham, Mortimer, Essex, England 1 2
Death: Y 3 2 4 1
Note:
REF 6020478 76 S/N 00530-0 001 43.

Seal to Parents: 21 JUN 1961

Marriage 1 George KINGE OR KING b: Abt 1567 in Of Woodham, Mortimer, Essex, England
Married: 1592 in Cold Norton, , Essex, England 1 2 Children Anna KING b: 1 Dec 1594 in Woodham, Mortimer, Essex, England George KINGE b: Abt 1595 in Woodham, Mortimer, Essex, England Thomas KINGE OR KING b: Abt 1597 in Woodham, Mortimer, Essex, England Daniel KINGE OR KING b: Abt 1599 in Woodham, Mortimer, Essex, England Judith KINGE OR KING b: Abt 1601 in Woodham, Mortimer, Essex, England Sources:
Title: Lyle Rawlins Records
Title: Submitted by Nora Murdock
Page: Merle Romer~~88 West 50 South~~Centerville, UT~~801-292-3159~~(16 Feb 1999)
Title: Julia Whitney Rawlins' family records
Title: Stamped Family Group Sheet
Page: Merle Romer~~88 West 50 South~~Centerville, UT~~801-292-3159~~(16 Feb 1999) ==================== N
OTES ON THOMAS KING, Died Bef. August 08, 1583, father of George 1567, above: None ====================
NOTES ON WILLIAM KYNGE, Father of Thomas, above: None
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NOTES ON JOHN KYNGE, 1459, Father of William, above: None
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NOTES ON JOHN KYNGE, Abt. 1425, Father of John 1459, above: None (I think I got all these from the LDS site) At 03:58 PM 3/17/01 -0500, you wrote: Helo Joan,
My name is Peter King. My Gr-gr-gr-gr-grand parents are John and Mary King who lived in Sunderland,VT around 1750's. They had 9 children and moved around between VT, MA and VT.

• Calib King, b.1758, Sunderland,Bennington Co.,VT
• Mary King, b 15 Jan 1761, Ashfield, Franklin Co., MA
• Zebulon King, b. 1763, Arlington, Bennington Co.,VT
• John King, b. 1763 (?), Ashfield, Franklin Co., MA
• Enoch King, b.1767-1770, Ashfield, Franklin Co.,MA
• Joshua King, b. 1771, Ashfield, Franklin Co., MA
• Reubah King, b. 1774, Fenner, Madsen Co, NY
• Rhoda King, b.1776, Ashfield, Franklin Co. MA
• James King, b. 1778, Ashfield, Franklin Co.,MA
Any information about the Kings in Vermont and their connection to my family would be greatly appreciated. In know there are a number of Kings in Bennington County and am trying to connect some dots. Thanks for any help you give.
Peter M. King (thekings@crocker.com)</font>

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From: Joan King [mailto:jking2000@home.com]
Sent: None
To: dcheney@cptelco.net
Subject: Re: Mary Stowell-John King

Hi Nickie,

Yes, I saw that, but then the date of death they give for her shows her to have been around 60 or so when she died. I give up! At least for today. I'll let you know if I find anything. I wish they had kept better track of things. I think that when they had so many wives, they just registered all the kids under the first wife's name, as if it didn't matter!!! They got more careful later. Arghhhhh!! I'm pretty sure they're all related somehow, though. Let's make a deal--if I find out something, I'll let you know... and vice versa, OK?
At 09:50 PM 2000-07-08 -0400, you wrote: “The information in the book says that Elizabeth Stowell (d/o David Stowell) died young?! So she couldn't have married John King, maybe it was a cousin of Mary Stowell King?! Let me know what you think.
Nickie
Joan King wrote: Hi Nickie, Thanks so much for getting back to me. Whether you realize it or not, this is a huge help to me. This helps me probably “Mary Stowell and John King 1690” as my ancestors. It's kind of a shame, because I was beginning to grow attached. ;-) And they are the grandparents of Rufus King, to whom my aunt always said we were related. (That doesn't mean she was right.) Actually, the LDS site gives four names of children you don't have listed: Isaac, born June 18, 1730; Malatiah, born July 2, 1732; John, born Aug 13, 1732, and Samuel, born Apr. 29, 1734. The OTHER John King on the LDS site married Mary Clift, and his children were supposedly John, born Aug 13, 1732, Thomas, christened Feb 22, 1736/7, and Lydiah, christened July 2, 1738. I have a funny feeling that John 1732 doesn't belong to either, because his AFN number is quite different. Anyway, back to sleuthing.... Thanks so much for your help. It may be that there's a relationship farther back, or, as you say, through a different wife. “Your” John King also married Elizabeth Stowell, the sister of Mary, but I haven't been able to track down any children. It may well be that they belong to her. Hey, you don't have anything about the children of Elizabeth, do you? At 08:26 PM 2000-07-08 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Joan, This is what I found: Mary Stowell b.p. in Watertown, Mass. on November 20, 1709 d. March 7, 1770 m. in Boston, Mass. on April 2, 1718 to John King (his second marriage) their children:
1) Richard King b. in Boston, Mass. in 1718
2) Mary King b. in Boston, Mass. on June 8, 1719
3) Sarah King b. February 27, 1720
4) Mehitable King d. May 15, 1810
5) William King b.p. June 27, 1725
6) David King b.p. August 12, 1726
7) Rebecca King b.p. November 10, 1728
8) Josiah King b.p. April 4, 1731
9) Martha King b.p. September 22, 1733
10) Katherine b.p. May 23, 1736
Unfortunately I don't have who his first wife was or their children (if they even had any). But if they did it could be that one of their children had the John King you are looking for. That is unless the Stowell book miss putting one child in, which is also another possibility. If I can help you any more let me know, and Good Luck! Nickie
Joan King wrote:
Hello Nickie,
I saw your messages on the Stowell Family at FamilyHistory.com, and you said you have a lot of the Stowell genealogy. Would you perhaps do me a favor and take a look and see if you can find Mary Stowell, daughter of David Stowell and Mary Stedman, christened Nov 20 1709, and married to John King on April 2, 1718 in Boston? What I'm interested in especially is when and where this John King was born, if you have that information, and the names and birthdates of their children. I am a descendant of John King, born Aug. 13, 1732, in Ashfield, MA, who is possibly the son of this couple. Thank you so much. Joan King jking2000@home.com

Dear Milton Joseph King, Jr,

It would be great to have you as a cousin, too. I shall adopt you, if necessary! ;) But I want to make sure my tree is as perfect as possible. There are always errors, of course. My gedmatch is T459358 and I have FTDNA, too, if that's a help: 420826, if I remember correctly... Please let me know what you discover, either way!! Sometimes DNA is the only way!

Joan