Agnes Campbell - Not who you think she was

Maven B. Helms
7/31/2017 at 9:08 PM

Managers of Agnes Campbell,

I am contacting you about this profile: Ann 'Agnes' Campbell

Evidence has been found that John Miller Jr's wife was NOT the "Agnes" Campbell who was the daughter of Sir Duncan Campbell, Bart.

According to the "Black Book of Taymouth" https://archive.org/stream/blackbookoftaymo00inneuoft#page/n89/mode... and https://archive.org/stream/blackbookoftaymo00inneuoft#page/24/mode/2up, Sir Duncan's third daughter (of four), named "Annas", was married to "the laird of Inchemertene", therefore not to any common John Miller. (The text is written in "braid Scots" dialect but is intelligible with a little patience.)

Sincerely,

Maven B. Helms

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Maven B. Helms
7/31/2017 at 9:23 PM

Found the name of Annas/Anne/Agnes' husband: Sir Patrick Ogilvie of Inchmartin (d. bef. 1624).

VIII. Sir PATRICK, who succeeded his grandfather, and got a charter, under the great seal, domino Patricio Ogilvie, &c.* of the lands and barony of Inchmartin, and others, anno 1593.

He married Margaret, daughter of sir George Haliburton of Pitcur,* by whom he had two sons.

1. Sir Patrick, his heir.

2. William, who having been witness to the slaughter of Patrick Kinnaird of Inchture, got a remission under the great seal, Willielmo Ogilvie, filio legitimo Patricii Ogilvie de Inch∣martin, &c.* dated 8th December 1594.

He was succeeded by his eldest son,

* IX. Sir PATRICK, who, in his father's lifetime, got a charter from king James VI. Patricio, juniori de Inchmartin,*et Annae Camp∣bell suae sponsae, baroniae de Inchmartin, &c. dat∣ed 8th January 1611.

Page 262 He died before the year 1624, leaving is∣sue, by the said Anne, daughter of sir Dun∣can Campbell of Glenorchie, ancestor of the earl of Breadalbane, a son,

X. Sir PATRICK OGILVIE, who succeed∣ed him, and got a charter under the great seal,* of the lands and barony of Inchmartin, and several others, in Perthshiue, dated 1st July 1624.

He married lady Elizabeth Ogilvie, eldest daughter of James first earl of Finlater, who, with the approbation of the crown, succeeded to the honours,* as before observed, and was the second earl of Finlater.

He was a man of great honour and merit, a steady loyalist, and suffered many hardships on account of his attachment to the interest of the royal family. He was excepted from pardon by Oliver Cromwell,* and fined in fif∣teen hundred pounds sterling, anno 1654.

He died anno 1658, leaving issue, by the said lady Elizabeth, countess of Finlater, a son and successor,

XI. JAMES, third earl of Finlater...

http://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/ecco/004896980.0001.000/1:107?rgn=div1;...

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Terry Jackson (Switzer)
yesterday at 2:41 PM

This is interesting Maven, I wonder though, who, if she existed, was Agnes who married a John Miller.

It's a little hard to tell from previous merges if there was a bad merge or not. As curator I'm not absolutely sure where I got my information from. I did some work on Campbells from a book I have got but this isn't one that I've added so suspect it's not one of these.

I wouldn't object to you making the changes you speak about as long as the About Me reflects both the changes and what was held previously.

Of course first we should try to discover where the various Miller descendants belong.

Terry

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Maven B. Helms
yesterday at 3:28 PM

There's one bunch of Millers who immigrated to Massachusetts and from there to Vermont, and a different bunch who immigrated to Virginia. They're always getting mixed up with each other because careless researchers *will* misread "Vermont" for "Virginia" or vice versa.

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Terry Jackson (Switzer)
Today at 12:56 PM

Maven, I think it may be worth sharing this as perhaps as a discussion with managers of John Miller as the about me seems to be fairly certain of his marriage to this Agnes.

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