Adding sources

Started by Johanna Lehtonen on Thursday, August 3, 2017
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8/3/2017 at 3:18 PM

Hi all,

Could somebody be kind enough and explain to me how to correctly add references at geni?

For instance, if my source is a range of pages in a court document or book (that may or may not be accessible online), how do I add the name of this souce and how do I refer to it?

To show what I mean, here is an example of what a source reference can look like in a gedcom:

1 SOUR @S2@
2 DATA
3 TEXT Possible quote from the source but not obligatory.
2 PAGE identifies the exact place in the source document, e.g. page numbers

0 @S2@ SOUR
1 TITL 'Name of the document'
1 REPO @R1@

0 @R1@ REPO
1 NAME 'Where the document is stored, e.g. the National Archives'

I can't find a place where to simply add the name of the source document and the page reference. All I can see is a system where adding a source requires uploading a document, taking a screen shot from a web page or creating a text document. But I don't want to do any of those. I just want to write the name of the source and the page numbers, maybe add a quote from the source and/or a URL to the source, and then connect this either to one of the facts or to the text in the 'About' field.

Am I missing something here? Or is this just not possible at geni?

Also, I added two test documents, but I can't remove them now.

Not sure if I should have added this to the help section, but I thought my question might be noticed better here.

8/5/2017 at 4:07 AM

Hasn't anyone on this site ever wanted to add references to traditional, non-digital sources?

Private User
8/5/2017 at 3:35 PM

I don't think what you are wanting to do is possible.

On the other hand -- deleting a Document should be easy. Click on the Document, click "Actions" (upper right), choose "Delete Document". Does that work for you?

Private User
8/5/2017 at 3:44 PM

Thinking more - sources on Geni is not meant for listing sources we can go out and find; it is meant as a way of actually connecting the Document we have added to the fact on the Geni Profile that it provides evidence for. No Document provided on Geni, then no, no source.

On the other hand, Geni's use of "Source" for info from MyHeritage (etc?) via Smart Matches is really a separate meaning of Source. But at least those are "sources" that, if you have Geni Pro and a MyHeritage Data Subscription Plan, you can see.

To just tell us "here's where you can find it" -- I think most folks use the About Section of the Profile for that type of info. Tho for some, the About on a Timeline Event might be used.

8/6/2017 at 10:44 AM

Private User, thank you for your reply. Yes, I was able to delete a document, thanks!

I find that the About on the Timeline Events is quite an elegant solution and comes close to what I need. Thanks also to the kind person who sent me a personal message about the timeline events. My source references are 95% just textual in my personal database. I can try to locate and upload some documents, but that will take forever.

Also, I wonder how any source info I add will be exported into a gedcom whether the info is in the form of documents and citations or notes on the timeline. I would imagine very poorly from what I have seen of geni to gedcom transfers so far. I wonder if the designers of geni have ever taken the time to read the gedcom standards.

By the way, is there any staff working on geni? The reason I ask is that although I find geni an awesome concept, what I find frustrating is that I haven't gotten a response from geni to any of my concerns or bug reports. I can see that the same bugs that trouble me have been reported years ago, but geni hasn't responded to them in any way. I am only trialling the pro version, and it makes me wonder if I want to subscribe to the pro version and support a company that handles customer support and relations so poorly.

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