Determining where an Ancestor originated

Started by Lizel Hilda van Zyl on Saturday, July 29, 2017
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7/29/2017 at 5:24 PM

Hi all,
I have been researching my family tree for a while and have discovered that the Harvey's branch immediate branch and my father's father's) were part of the 1820 Settlers. I am now researching my father's mother's parentage which is either French, Belgium or Mauritian. Is anyone able to assist if there are any places that would help me along? I am looking at the following names Leopold John Joseph De Gaye although John is usually Jean and Joseph can also be Giuseppe so names may have been translated into the English version. William Pulvenis and Cecile Andre. Also, Leopold appears to be the name of a Belgium king and although it states "French" on his death certificate. I have also noted they didn't always write all their names on certain documents which hinder things and also because the writing is sometimes hard to decipher the name De Gaye has been written as Degoye or Degeye. Thank you

7/29/2017 at 11:43 PM

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7/30/2017 at 1:41 AM

Thank you

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7/30/2017 at 3:41 AM

Hi Lizel,

a quick search using google and the terms "pulvenis family" provides some interesting results (but ignore the "spammy" websites which "offer information" for a price)

https://lastnames.myheritage.com/last-name/pulvenis
shows that surname is concentrated in RSA and Oz
as does this site
http://forebears.io/surnames/pulvenis

this site gives a basic tree, but no point of origin
https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Pulvenis-Descendants-3

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRAN... entry 710

see
https://www.gendatabase.com/surname-name-index.php?q=PULVENIS

among other results was the following
EDWARD PULVENIS married KATICA ELVIRA MEKISICH 1962

not able to determine if Edward Peter is a relative, but his wife Kate Mekišić probably came from the Dubrovnik area in what is today Croatia.
see also
https://www.myheritage.com/research?action=query&formId=master&...

The surname PULVENIS appears to have originated in France, possible in Valle de Campoloro, but today very few people with the surname live in France
see
https://www.filae.com/nom-de-famille/PULVENIS.html

Ivo

7/31/2017 at 2:14 AM

Hello Lizel,

Which Harvey 1820 settler are you tracing? My gggg grandmother married Richard Harvey.

Kind regards,
Charmane

7/31/2017 at 8:50 AM

Bushbuchridge

7/31/2017 at 8:52 AM

My ancestors originated at mphumalanga Bushbuckridge

8/3/2017 at 10:29 PM

Hi Charmaine, my g g grandfather was George Morgan Harvey. I think either his brother was Richard or Richard was his Uncle. So sorry I have been crazy busy this week so haven't had a chance to post the links xx Lizel

8/3/2017 at 10:33 PM

Thank you Ivo. I have found louis Willie / William Pulvenis married Cecile Andre. She was 15. Also my gran married a De Gaye - also French or Belgium. Absolutely fascinating. My gg grandfather's son married a De Gaye and her surname wa Pulvenis. Originally the teeeny tiny amount of info I have said the Pulvenis could possibly have been Mauritiun as according to probate docs I found, they worked in Sugar Cane areas...

8/3/2017 at 10:35 PM

The Harvey's I traced originated in EssexUk came to SA then George Morgan Harvey took his family off through Africa. One was born in Botswana and my grandfather in Nairobi, from what I understand they were related to the Harvey's of Sterkfontein. Does that help?

8/3/2017 at 10:56 PM

This is the link = hope I have done it correctly https://www.geni.com/family-tree#6000000064323973941

8/4/2017 at 10:53 AM

Thank you, not sure. My Richard married Sarah Wills , the family mofed up to Orange Free State.
I will look at your link.

8/7/2017 at 2:05 AM

@Charnane Scott - check this out Henry Edward Harvey, SV/PROG

11/2/2017 at 8:48 AM

I looking for any information on the origins of my ancestors on my father's, Mbuyisa, who originated in KNZ near what is not called Richmond in an area called MALAHLENI who are descendents of Ngwadi . (MALAHLENI not to be confused as eMalahleni Witbank) Any one with information please. My grand Mother - Mabuzane a daughter of a chief/king a Tsonga originated from an area called Mtshipisi or under Chief Mtshipisi.

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