STOP TRYING TO FORCE-LINK ALL JUSTICE FAMILIES!

Started by Private User on Tuesday, July 25, 2017
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Private User
7/25/2017 at 2:58 PM

In particular, STOP trying to force a link between the Mirey Creek/Floyd County Justices and the Charles City, VA Justices!

THERE IS NO THERE THERE!!!

John Justice, Sr., of Mirey Creek was NOT a nephew, cousin, or any other known relative of William Justice, of "Kittawon".

His parentage is UNKNOWN. He was born in Plymouth County, MASSACHUSETTS, married Mary MOORE, Irish immigrant, in Plymouth County, MASSACHUSETTS, had all his children in Plymouth County, MASSACHUSETTS - and then and ONLY then moved down to the Mirey Creek, VA (Pittsylvania/Halifax County, VA) area - possibly following some of his wife's relatives who had settled there first.

He never married a Mary Cannon.

He never had ANYTHING to do with ANY member of the Charles City, VA Justice family.

Private User
7/25/2017 at 3:18 PM

For that matter, William Justice's antecedents are not known either, and if you don't watch out, you will have a Timey-Wimey mess on your hands.

At present we have both William's "father" and his grandson (both named John) marrying a "Mary Hogue", at least a century apart.

"Mary Hogue" has never been satisfactorily accounted for, and she may actually have been a a Hague, Hogg, or Fictional Person.

7/25/2017 at 11:15 PM

I unmerged, re merged, and relationship locked. Should William Justice, of "Kittawon" lose his parents ?

Private User
7/26/2017 at 6:38 AM

Yes, he should. His parentage is unknown.

I did a lot of profile-shuffling myself, so I'd better check up on this.

Private User
7/26/2017 at 6:58 AM

We have a small problem with Ralph Justice - there are two of him, and one has the wrong wife.

Ralph is well covered in the Miles Files because he moved over to Accomack County. He married Mary Abbott (not Wade) and had:

1. Ralph Justice b. Jan 1676, d. Jun 1677 (drowned as a toddler)
2. Susanna Justice+ b. c 1678, d. b 17 Sep 1729 (m. Richard Bundick II)
3. John Justice+ b. c 1681, d. b 29 Apr 1740 (m. Mary Todd)
4. Abbot Justice (I)+ b. c 1684, d. b 7 Apr 1724 (m. Mary unknown)
5. Elizabeth Justice b. c 1686 (married 1) NN Johnson, 2) NN Nock)
6. Richard Justice Sr.+ b. c 1688, d. b 29 Mar 1768 (m. Ann Savage)
7. Robert Justice Sr.+ b. c 1690, d. b 28 Mar 1780 (m. 1) Comfort Hope, 2) Mary Nock
8. Sarah Justice+ b. c 1692, d. b 14 Aug 1739 (m. 1) John Parramore, 2) John Kitson
9. Mary Justice+ b. c 1694 (m. 1) Benjamin Coe, 2) Jonathan (or John) Baker)

There is some confusion as to which of the other sons of William of Kittawon (John and Justinian) married Mary Wade and which one married Mary Cannon. Such consensus as there is suggests that Justinian married Ms. Cannon (and his descendants moved to North Carolina), while John married Ms. eventually-Wade (she wasn't born a Wade, that was the surname of her last(?) husband).

There is also some uncertainty as to whether Silvanus Justice was a son of John or Justinian (he moved to NC with the Justinian descendants), and whether Mary Moore is a Fictitious Person or not.

Private User
7/26/2017 at 7:22 AM

Messy situation with John Justus of the Justinian line: he has four wives, two of whom are certainly duplicates (Private and Elizabeth Justus), but they don't have the same dates or parents, and the children are mal-distributed (I think).

Private User
7/26/2017 at 7:35 AM

Revisions: Not-Ralph merged with John, and Mary "Wade" with Mary Wade; Justinian merged with Justinian Jr. and re-parented to match.

Private User
7/26/2017 at 7:37 AM

Mary eventually-Wade cut from the Maryland Wades.

Private User
7/26/2017 at 7:49 AM

Will be concentrating on Ralph's descendants, since the Miles Files have a lot of them listed.

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