Lady Agnes Allgar - Can we please drop the "Lord/Lady" nonsense re the Allgars?

Further note: Agnes Algore (Algar, Allgar), who married Thomas Fitch, was the only surviving child. She was THE heiress - there were no others. No brothers, and probably no sisters either.

This whole part of the tree has degenerated into another mess. People simply WILL NOT let go of the idea that there *must* have been some relationship between Bridget Allgar (wife of Robert White of Messing) and the Algere/Algore/Algar/Allgar family of Brazen Head. Maybe they were distant cousins, but the paper trail is G*O*N*E.

They also WILL NOT let go of the idea that the family with the fancy door-knocker "must" have been Lords and Nobles because "Castle" - a gross misnomer misapplied to a mere *farmhouse*.

Myths die hard - sometimes very, very hard.

I'd be happy to try and "fact lock" as MP's but I'm having trouble matching for merging, for instance

https://www.geni.com/search?search_type=people&names=Agnes+allgar

??

There are several of her, with variously spelled last names:

Agnes Fitch, heiress of Manor Lindsell
Agnes Fitch, heiress of Manor Lindsell
Agnes Fitch, heiress of Manor Lindsell
Agnes Fitch, heiress of Manor Lindsell

and the Master Profile:
Agnes Fitch, heiress of Manor Lindsell

Notice the INSISTENCE that her father was at least a Knight if not a Lord. Shaw's "Knights" shows nothing for any variation of the name whatsoever. And of course there never was a "Brazen Head" barony (or even baronetcy, although baronets are Jacobean at earliest).

My guess is that the family was wealthy yeomanry or *maybe* squirearchy (untitled gentry) - prominent locally but of no national importance.

I think there is at least one botched merge in that batch, because I recall entertaining the possibility that William "of Shalford Allgar William 'of Shalford' Allgar *might* have had a sister Agnes - who, however, was NOT the heiress of Brazen Head.

Margaret Algore, of Brasonhead & Lindsell - valid? Same as Margaret NN wife ?

Her mother's name was definitely Margaret, no confirmation on birth name - and no titles.

There seems to be a lot more information available on the Fitches, though how much of it is accurate is an open question - anything to do with a "Fitch Castle" is very, very dubious.

"The Thomas Fitch, who married Agnes Algore, was born abt. 1465, and died 21 April 1514. His parents were John and Juliana Fitch. His grandfather was William Fitch, born abt. 1400. And that's as far back as the College of Arms has been able reliably to trace the family line.All earlier generations, baronies, and castles are myths." http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/fitch/939/