Lady Margaret de la Pole - Daughter of John de la Pole or Michael de la Pole?

Pole of Suffolk, Earl John De la
Michael de la Pole, a younger s/o the Earl of Suffolk.
John (John De) Pole formerly La Pole aka 1st Earl of Lincoln
Born 1464 in Wingfield, Suffolk, England
Son of John De La Pole KG and Elizabeth (York) de la Pole
Brother of Richard Pole, Eleanor Pole, Edmund (LaPole) Pole, Dorothy La Pole, Elizabeth (LaPole) Lovel, Humphrey (LaPole) Pole, Catherine (LaPole) Stourton, Geoffrey (LaPole) Pole, William (LaPole) Pole, Anne (LaPole) Pole, Richard (LaPole) de la Pole, Edward DeLa Pole and Isabelle (De La Pole) Pole
Husband of Edith Titherleigh — married
Husband of Margaret Fitzalan — married 1482 in Wingfield, Suffolk, , England
Father of William de (la Pole) Pole, Edward De (LaPole) Pole and Margaret (de La Pole) Pole
Died June 16, 1487 in East Stoke, Nottinghamshire, England

Pole, Lady Margaret De la
John (John De) Pole formerly La Pole aka 1st Earl of Lincoln
Born 1464 in Wingfield, Suffolk, England
Son of John De La Pole KG and Elizabeth (York) de la Pole
Brother of Richard Pole, Eleanor Pole, Edmund (LaPole) Pole, Dorothy La Pole, Elizabeth (LaPole) Lovel, Humphrey (LaPole) Pole, Catherine (LaPole) Stourton, Geoffrey (LaPole) Pole, William (LaPole) Pole, Anne (LaPole) Pole, Richard (LaPole) de la Pole, Edward DeLa Pole and Isabelle (De La Pole) Pole
Husband of Edith Titherleigh — married
Husband of Margaret Fitzalan — married 1482 in Wingfield, Suffolk, , England
Father of William de (la Pole) Pole, Edward De (LaPole) Pole and Margaret (de La Pole) Pole
Died June 16, 1487 in East Stoke, Nottinghamshire, England//////TABLE II (Line comes through Winifred Pole)
Winifred was dau. of: Henry, Baron Montagu, K.G., (1492-1539) (a.k.a. Sir Henry Pole, Lord Montague) mar. (ca. 1513) Hon. Janet (or Jane, or Jean) Nevill (=Jean, dau. of Sir George Neville, 27th Baron Bergavenny)
Henry, Baron Montagu was son of: Sir Richard (or Reginald?) Pole (d. 1505) who mar. (1494) Margaret, Countess of Salisbury, (1473-1541), called the BLESSED PRINCESS MARGARET, THE LAST OF THE PLANTAGENETS, beheaded on Tower Hill, 27th May 1541.
Margaret was the dau. of: George (Plantagenet), Duke of Clarence, K.G. (1449-1478) mar. (1469) Lady Isabel Nevill, (1451-1476, dau. and heiress of Richard, Earl of Warwick and Salisbury, the "King Maker")
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lsayre1/index_fil...

Notes for MARGARET DE LA POLE:

"William, Lord Ferrers of Groby; who had to wife Margaret, daughter of Michael de la Pole, Earl of Suffolk and by her was father of Hery, Lord Ferrers of Groby." (Peerage of England, by Thomas Collins, dated 1740-1750, Vol II of the Supplement to the Four Volumes 1750, page 479)
1490
Yorkshire, England
Death: 1560 (70)
Wetwang, Yorkshire, , England
Immediate Family:
Daughter of michael de la pole and (unk) de la pole
Wife of William Lord Ferrers of Groby and John de Hardy
Mother of John de Hardy, Lord Mayor of London
Added by: Elisha Dawn Hall on October 20, 2008
Managed by: Alex Samayoa and 8 othersJOHN2 DE HARDY (RICHARD1) was born 1489 in Wetwang East Riding, Yorkshire, England, and died 1544 in Yorkshire, England. He married MARGARET DE LA POLE 1509 in Yorkshire, England, daughter of MICHAEL DE LA POLE. She was born 1490 in Yorkshire, England, and died 1560 in England.
Notes for JOHN DE HARDY:
Note: In mid 1500 Sir John deHardy was Lord Mayor of London. He was descended from Sir John deHardy of Bedfordshire and Lady Margaret, d/o Michael de la Pole, a younger s/o the Earl of Suffolk.
Notes for MARGARET DE LA POLE:
"William, Lord Ferrers of Groby; who had to wife Margaret, daughter of Michael de la Pole, Earl of Suffolk and by her was father of Hery, Lord Ferrers of Groby." (Peerage of England, by Thomas Collins, dated 1740-1750, Vol II of the Supplement to the Four Volumes 1750, page 479)
Child of JOHN DE HARDY and MARGARET LA POLE is:

3. i. LORD MAYOR OF LONDON JOHN3 DE HARDY, b. 1510, Wetwang East Riding, Yorkshire, England; d. 1546, London, England.

{Hmm; a mix of research notes, I have... will have to look into it further.}

Margaret's son:
De Hardy, LORD MAYOR Sir John
John De Hardy, "Sir" "Lord Mayor of London"
Born: 1504, Wetwang, Driffield, East RiDe Yorkshire, England
Died: 1543, London, Middlesex, England
Married: Abt. 1525, Yorkshire, England
Wife: Mary Stanley-Strange
children
1. 5Michael De Hardy, Born: 1530, Wetwang, Driffield, East RiDe Yorkshire, England LORD MAYOR OF LONDON JOHN3 DE HARDY (JOHN2, RICHARD1) was born 1510 in Wetwang East Riding, Yorkshire, England, and died 1546 in London, England. He married MARY STANLEY 1525 in Yorkshire, England, daughter of GEORGE STANLEY and JOAN BARONESS. She was born Abt. 1500 in Knockin, Shropshire, England, and died 1543 in Franklin, Simpson, KY.

Child of JOHN DE HARDY and MARY STANLEY is:

4. i. SIR MICHAEL4 DE HARDY, b. 1530, Wetwang East Riding, Yorkshire, England; d. 17 Jan 1618, Huggate, Bedfordshire, England.
John Hardy and Olive Council were m. Bedford County, England in 1632. Ref. LDS marriage records in Bedford, England. John's older brother George first came to VA, arriving prior to 1636, and was a shipwright. This brother, George, transported his nephew George, son of John and Olive, to VA, and later secured patents to transport John, Olive, and 3 more of their 7 children here. They were John, Olive, and Richard. I do not know whether the other three, Emanuel, Thomas, and Deborah chose to remain in England, or if they were deceased. Of the 4 here:
1.George Hardy, b. 1633, m. Mary Jackson (my lineage).
2.Olive Hardy, b. 1635, m. Colonel John Pitt.
3.John Hardy, b. 1637 Bedford Co., England, m. Alice, according to his will dtd 7 Oct. 1676.
They had:
1.Olive Hardy, m. Giles Driver 1675.
2.Lucy Hardy, m. Hodges Council 1675.
3.Ann Hardy, m. Robert Burnett.
4.Isabel Hardy, m. William Mayo 1681.
5.Deborah Hardy, m. Bridgeman Jayner 1713.
4.Richard Hardy, b. 1640, m. Mary Vincent 1694.

Isabel Hardy and William Mayo had:
1.William Mayo.
2.James Mayo.
3.John Mayo.
4.Peter Mayo.
5.Mary Mayo.
6.Margaret Mayo.
7.Patience Mayo.

I have have John de Hardy through his son, Sir Michael de Hardy who married Lady Allisin de Shelton.
I have Sir Michael de Hardy through his son; another knight, Sir John de Hardy who married Mary Margaret Newton. Let me know if you want the extensive info on them. I have Sir John through Richard I Esquire Hardy who came to America to Isle of Wight, Virginia, & married Alice Wilson.

Barbara, thanks for responding. I see you also mentioned Mary Stanley and John Hardy, who I also directly descend from. From what I've read, there's some doubt Mary Stanley was the son of George Stanley and Jacquetta Woodville, Lady Strange. I've seen a theory that Mary was actually the granddaughter of George and Jacquetta due to her alleged birth year. Also, I've looked at different peerage records and Mary isn't listed as George and Jacquetta's daughter on any of the ones I've seen. John Hardy was definitely a real historical figure, but he was an Alderman of London, not Lord Mayor. I read a credible explanation of why he is said to have been a Lord Mayor when he wasn't, which is he had an untimely death and died right before becoming Lord Mayor.

I've had a hard time finding much more on any of these individuals. What we have for sources of information are a book with a shaky reputation (Wurt's Magna Charta) and a family memoir. If you have any more information on Margaret de La Pole or Mary Stanley/John Hardy, please let me know.

I have Woodville, Baroness Jacquetta & le Strange of Knockyn, Lord John as her maternal grandparents. I have the mother of Mary as Le Strange, Baroness Joan Mary & her father as Stanley, George. I have made your corrections on my Tribal Tree for John Hardy.

Barbara, thanks again. I just realized I said Jacquetta is said to have been the mother of Mary Stanley, instead of Joan le Strange. Joan le Strange is actually the one who is said to have been Mary Stanley's mother. I was thinking Joan and George Stanley might have been Mary's grandparents, instead. I have little doubt that Mary existed, but it's hard to determine her actual parentage. I have run into various roadblocks with this line