Sarah Gardiner (Slaughter) - Should Sarah Slaughter be married to a different George Gardiner?

Yes, it does help, thank you.

Private User can we take a look at Benoni's parents again?

Benoni Gardiner

Joann Butler is the Herodias Long biographer, and both Susan's & mine recollection is that she has Benoni as a child of Herodias & George Gardiner.

I would need to find the Moriarty argument for "the two George Gardiner's" (one married Sarah Slaughter, the other married Herodias Long and then Lydia Ballou).

The 1919 "Gardiners of Narraganset" book:

http://archive.org/stream/gardinersofnarra00robi#page/2/mode/2up has George with 2 wives, not three, and Benoni as the first child of Herodias & George.

Sorry folks, I accidentally posted what I thought was a private note to Erica with my thoughts about George Gardiner and Sarah Slaughter. Here's the part of my post that is OK for public viewing.

To my knowledge, Benoni was definitely not the son of George and Sarah. They only had two male children and both apparently died on the Fellowship. Benoni was the product of George and Herodias (according to my memory from my research). However, the statement from Henry Sewall Webster says that Benoni was the third son of George and Sarah Gardiner born in London in 1637. Without pulling out all my files, I can't verify this statement from my research. This sounds confusing and it goes against my memory of everything I have in my research papers. Will be interested in hearing what Joann has to say about her GGx ? I think she would say George and Herodias. I'll try to look him up in my files tomorrow.

And I definitely don't agree with Moriarity that the George Gardiner who married Sarah Slaughter was different from my George Gardiner who married Herodias. Moriarity is not accurate in so many instances.

My research papers show that Benoni is the son of George and Herodias. I agree with you, Susan Frost, that George Gardiner that married Sarah and George Gardiner that married Herodias are one and the same.

I hope everyone reads this page (long)

http://www.rebelpuritan.com/Gardner.html

George Gardner/Gardiner's Ancestry

A long and impressive lineage has been claimed for George Gardner, with descent from King Edward III and Charlemagne. However, there is very little proof of this ancestry. A George Gardiner was bp. on Feb. 15, 1599 to Rev. Michael Gardiner of Greenford Magna, County Middlesex, England, but there is no proven connection between Michael’s son George, and our George, excepting the name. At the end of this page you will find two articles from "The American Genealogist" magazine regarding George's ancestry and Sarah Slaughter, correspondence regarding George Gardiner.

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The births of Benoni, Edward, and Robert to George and Sara (Slaughter) Gardiner are not found in London
vital records. The sailing of the Fellowship with the Gardiner family aboard is not found in the shipping lists.
Until evidence is found, the parentage of George Gardner/Gardiner of Newport, Rhode Island, is best
described as “unknown.”

I'm going to point out a few more points from http://www.rebelpuritan.com/Gardner.html

George Moriarty points out that a George Gardiner remained in St. James Clerkenwell after 1630, had several children, and was still there on Oct. 29, 1657 when "Rebecca, daughter of George Gardiner," was buried. On this date, our George Gardner had been a resident of Rhode Island for nearly 20 years. However, St. James Clerkenwell birth and baptismal records have several children born to George Gardiner, including the Rebecca who was buried in 1657. ...

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From the same Moriarity article:

Asa Bird Gardiner claimed that he found the couple and three sons on a passenger list for the Fellowship, which he said sailed from Bristol, England to Boston, MA in 1637. This claim concludes that Sara and their two eldest children (Edward and Robert) died in the crossing, but their infant son Benoni survived. That would make Benoni Herodias (Long) Hicks’ step-son, not her natural son. ....

The births of Benoni, Edward, and Robert to George and Sara (Slaughter) Gardiner are not found in London vital records. The sailing of the Fellowship with the Gardiner family aboard is not found in the shipping lists.

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What I would expect to prove the relationship between the Rev Michael family and the George of RI family is correspondence, not necessarily vital records. Will is best of course; but letters, financial transactions, ship register, artifacts & heirlooms, affiliations in other family relationships, geographic similiarity, class & education, people in common.

All of that is lacking in the Rev Michael to George of RI relationship.

Conversely, we have a proven relationship between Herodias' third husband Porter & Benoni. There is only one reason I can think of why he would include Benoni with his brothers in the property gift he made them, and that would be: she was his mother.

Tagging Rev. Michael Gardner for study on his children.