King David is my Mother's 94th ggg...grandfather , and he is my Father's 94th... ggggrandfather. After finding this information, I did my own research and the curator of this page is accurate. Also, King David is historically proven to exist and his lineage is one of the most accurate ancient lineages that exist. The Isrealites/Jewish nation have kept excellent genealogical records. I am named after my 98th great grandmother. :)
It seems the Irish kept good records too, at least for their kings and queens, so they are easier to trace. As I have traced 5 different lines to Abraham, very far in the past, I found significant differences between the timeline on the Ishmael lines as compared to Israel connections, a difference of at least 24 generations! so that line has to be missing quite a few people, but the Hebrew records and the Irish kings seem to go to Magog, at about -2700 BC? It is good they are separted from the biblical lines. Are there other traditions that have kep track? I did my dna and they found a recessive gene also seen inn Ashkenazi Jews, but I don't see any connection until many generations before that and there is no percentage per se of that connection in the 23andme data, and there is also a gene found in a 6th century Chinese chieftain, but most of me is British/Irish, and Scottish, with minor Scandavavian Lapp too. So many knights, royals and saints in this lineage but I know hardly anything about them other then what i have read here on geni. Wish I had funds to travel the world and see some of these places where my ancestors lived and died. I have recenly traced back to Charlemagne as my 33rd, 34th, 35th, 36th, 37th, 38th, 39th, 40th, and even 46th ggr, some of these numbers like 40th and 39th, were lines connecting 4 times over. what complicated lives. Also, besides one line direct to Henry I, I traced to 4 of his concubines through their own husbands, one was the Edith, wife of 1st Earl of Greystoke and I have always loved Tarzan stories, especially Tarzan Goes to India, filmed on location! The High Kings of Ireland I traced back to the 108th, and the Kings of Scotland, Wales, even William called "lionhearted". Though I knew nothing of my heritage till just a few years back, meeting relations and tracing my mom's lines back I was raised by Scotch/Irish babysitters in Venice Beach CA, attending the Scotch games in Santa Monica every year, and growing up imbued with the spirit of the Irish mothers who lived nearby, coincidentally?
God YHWH remember the covenant with the offspring of Jacob, Levi and David, so in the end will be the event as it is written, ...
He hath remembered his covenant for ever, the word which he commanded to a thousand generations.
Which covenant he made with Abraham, and his oath unto Isaac;
And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant:
Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance: [lot: Heb. cord]
- Psalms.105:8-11
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?chp=1&r...
And the LORD appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the LORD, who appeared unto him.
- Gen.12:7 (1.Moos.12:7)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=1.+Moos...
For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.
- Gen.13:15 (1.Moos.13:15)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=1.+Moos...
In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:
- Gen.15:18 (1.Moos.15:18)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=1.+Moos...
The LORD God of heaven, which took me from my father's house, and from the land of my kindred, and which spake unto me, and that sware unto me, saying, Unto thy seed will I give this land; he shall send his angel before thee, and thou shalt take a wife unto my son from thence.
- Gen.24:7 (1.Moos.24:7)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=1.+Moos...
Sojourn in this land, and I will be with thee, and will bless thee; for unto thee, and unto thy seed, I will give all these countries, and I will perform the oath which I sware unto Abraham thy father;
- Gen.26:3 (1.Moos.26:3)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=1.+Moos...
And, behold, the LORD stood above it, and said, I am the LORD God of Abraham thy father, and the God of Isaac: the land whereon thou liest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed;
- Gen.28:13 (1.Moos.28:13)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=1.+Moos...
And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.
- Gen.35:12 (1.Moos.35:12)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=1.+Moos...
But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Know therefore that the LORD thy God, he is God, the faithful God, which keepeth covenant and mercy with them that love him and keep his commandments to a thousand generations;
And repayeth them that hate him to their face, to destroy them: he will not be slack to him that hateth him, he will repay him to his face.
Thou shalt therefore keep the commandments, and the statutes, and the judgments, which I command thee this day, to do them.
Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the LORD thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers: [if: Heb. because]
- Deut.7:8-12 (5.Moos.7:8-12)
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Only the LORD had a delight in thy fathers to love them, and he chose their seed after them, even you above all people, as it is this day.
- Deut.10:15 (5.Moos.10:15)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=5.+Moos...
If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
- Deu.30:4 (5.Moos.30:4)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=5.+Moos...
And foundest his heart faithful before thee, and madest a covenant with him to give the land of the Canaanites, the Hittites, the Amorites, and the Perizzites, and the Jebusites, and the Girgashites, to give it, I say , to his seed, and hast performed thy words; for thou art righteous:
Nehemiah.9:8
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And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth. [corners: Heb. wings]
The envy also of Ephraim shall depart, and the adversaries of Judah shall be cut off: Ephraim shall not envy Judah, and Judah shall not vex Ephraim
- Isaiah.11:11-13
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?chp=1&r...
Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.
- Isaiah.49:7 (Jesaja.49:7)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=Jes.+49...
But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
- Jeremiah.23:8 (Jeremia.23:8)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?chp=1&r...
As he spake to our fathers, to Abraham, and to his seed for ever.
- Luke.1:55 (Luuk.1:55)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=Luuk.+1...
Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: [confirmed...: Gr. interposed himself by]
- (Hebr.6:17)
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For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
- Acts.2:39 (Apt.2:39)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=Ap.+t.+...
And he gave him none inheritance in it, no, not so much as to set his foot on: yet he promised that he would give it to him for a possession, and to his seed after him, when as yet he had no child.
- Acts.7:5 (Apt.7:5)
http://raamattu.uskonkirjat.net/servlet/biblesite.Bible?ref=Ap.+t.+...
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
- Joh.10:16
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And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad.
- Joh.11:52
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In God We Trust! Ephraim and Judah United in North...
Behold, these shall come from far: and, lo, these from the north and from the west; and these from the land of Sinim.
- Isaiah.49:12 (Jesaja.49:12)
Go and proclaim these words toward the north, and say, Return, thou backsliding Israel, saith the LORD; and I will not cause mine anger to fall upon you: for I am merciful, saith the LORD, and I will not keep anger for ever.
- Jeremiah.3:12
In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.
- Jeremiah.3:18
Thus saith the LORD, Behold, a people cometh from the north country, and a great nation shall be raised from the sides of the earth.
- Jeremiah.6:22
Lift up your eyes, and behold them that come from the north: where is the flock that was given thee, thy beautiful flock?
- Jeremiah.13:20
But, The LORD liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.
- Jeremiah.16:15
Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.
- Jeremiah.31:8
Ho, ho, come forth , and flee from the land of the north, saith the LORD: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the LORD.
- Zechariah.2:6 (Sakarja.2:6)
Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
- Zechariah.6:8 (Sakarja.6:8)
And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.
- Luke.13:29 (Luuk.13:29)
Isabeau (ve)vdh most people in the world are of Jewish descent, so i guess you ARE related to all of us Jews.
The Only Place Jesus is mentioned is in the Bible, i can not find any historical evidence of him,,not one mention,
At one stage, i did think, he was mentioned at Ceasar, one of the history professors, said i was not right.
If any one has one incident,of him being in any historic, papers, or any impyrical evidence, please let me know.
Isabeau what? The new testament clearly teaches Jesus did have ancestors but he was not married and didn't have children so he has no descendants
and Angelina what? He is mentioned in the antiquities of the Jews by Josephus
About this time there lived Jesus, a wise man, if indeed one ought to call him a man. For he was one who performed surprising deeds and was a teacher of such people as accept the truth gladly. He won over many Jews and many of the Greeks. He was the Messiah. And when, upon the accusation of the principal men among us, Pilate had condemned him to a cross, those who had first come to love him did not cease. He appeared to them spending a third day restored to life, for the prophets of God had foretold these things and a thousand other marvels about him. And the tribe of the Christians, so called after him, has still to this day not disappeared.- Jewish Antiquities, 18.3.3 §63
http://josephus.org/testimonium.htm
Angelina...I don't think some of my ancestors existed because I can't find any historical evidence of them. I guess the ones I found historical evidence for just appeared one day. You probably believe in evolution, but there is no historical evidence for that. It's just some theory that takes a different faith in to believe. Everyone alive has only witnessed humans being born from humans. Supposedly it takes millions of years to evolve, we're is the papers that a fish wrote that witnessed a monkey was born from a fish, where are the witnessed accounts for a monkey baring a human. There are multiple accounts in the Bible of witnessed events of Jesus. They were written when witnesses to the events were still alive. Nobody came forward and challenged the accounts written in the days when the witnesses to the events were still alive. Now, about 2000 years later people want to challenge witnessed events while accepting phoney theories.
so much on wikipedia ,is written by people who copy resources from other peoples work, ,Often time it is incorrect, but this is, Not a book on a shelf, its recourses are questionable, i want real History, , if its written in a book somewhere ,why dont history scolars know of this information, Internet is getting better, all the time, , this is a questionable link , i want real resources. and lots of them, still nobody has proven that jesus existed, outside of the bible.
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»In those days there, namely, Jesus, a wise man, if he may appoint a person. For he was a person who made a surprising heroic deeds and was a teacher of people who joyfully received the truth. He won over with many Jews and many Greeks. He was the Christ. When Pilate, after hearing that he is accused among the highest-ranking men, had condemned him to be crucified, those who had first learned to love him, did not give up attachment to him. On the third day he appeared to them as a revival brought back to life, for the prophets of God had prophesied this and countless other amazing things about him. And the tribe of Christians, which according to him, is called by that name, to this day not disappeared. "
(Josephus. Antiquities from 18.63 to 64)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pliny_the_Younger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suetonius
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Thomas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_apocrypha
Babylonian Talmud
https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeesuksen_historiallisuus#Rabbiiniset...
mentions "Yeshu," a person called, and five of disciples, Matthai, Nakai, Nezer, Buni and Todah, on a scroll Sanhedrin 43a. [23] [24]. The Talmud describes the illegitimate child of a Jewish woman that Jesus was and Pantera-called Roman soldier. This was brought against the ideas of virgin birth.
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https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeesuksen_historiallisuus
english
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
Actually those 2 sources Elizabeth stated are books. I don't know if they are on a shelf or not, but they are books. I guess if one owned them they could very easily put the books on their shelf. Actually those books are in a series of books written by the authors one is a Jewish resource and the other a Roman resource, both Romans and Jews were present in the time of Jesus Christ. Kind of like the Encylopedias had multiple books, we use to use Encyclopedias as a resource when writing reports for school. Anyway, I guess if someone wants to disregard resources that are given to them, then there is really no need to try to continue to give that person resources because they will just deny them anyway. There are historians that believe Jesus existed and they use these resources and then there are historians that do not believe so they disregard the resources. It comes down to their believes, either they believe and really want the resources, or they don't believe so they disregard.
I am also a descendant of King Davide (something around 102 ggf). May I mention something which should appease both sides. One the christian side, The Talmud mentioned Jesus and the fact that he existed and he was a rabbi who had at least five disciples. On the Jewish side, I can understand why Jesus was viewed negatively in the Talmud. After all, the Jews have suffered greatly historically under the Christians until the 20th century. Sorry, the Nazis are not christians in my book and they never will be (see Hitler's book if you want to understand why). I just want to point out one contradictions in the Jews argument. Namely, how did Jesus become a Rabbi (much less a Rabbi that can interpret the Law) if he was really born illegitimate? Just sometime I want to point out. I wish all of you a nice day.
Isabeau Elizabeth van Eck, even if you are my 23rd cousin thrice removed (which is very distant) I think it was very inappropriate of you, in some of your previous postings, to link directly to blatantly antisemitic you.tube clips (I Think you have removed them now,because I can´t find them any more). Please also stop being abusive in your postings here. Not kind or nice of you. Accusations of "blasphemy" are also way out of line. It is not in the power of humans to decide in that kind of matters - please leave the judgments to our Creator, who knows and understands everything.