Deletion as policy?

Just the same way that Geni allows curators to change each other's curator notes. We work as a collective team, and if anyone steps out of bounds Geni could intervene.

So we've got a couple of classes of placeholders:

- real information exists, but not enough to put a name to the person. These obviously should stay. (For instance, if "X is the maternal grandfather of Y" is a documented fact, Y's mother deserves a profile - otherwise the documented link isn't represented.)
- no information exists, we're pretty sure no information *can* exist, and the related profile is relationship-locked, so merges to the related profile will cut off the "extra" parents anyway; these seem to serve no purpose, and can be removed.
- no information exists, but the related profile is *not* relationship-locked. I'm not sure what's the right thing to do in this situation (which was true for all profiles previous to relationship locking).

Another variable is "who decides".

re: why not just delete them if they should be deleted.

I do not delete someone else's profiles, and in fact the perhaps the option to do so should be removed altogether. There's been a recent excellent new message warning that in a shared tree, deleting a profile affects all geni members.

re: discuss whatever decisions they make

That's a good point. I would say that if I created an "unknown" profile, and now have tools that make that placeholder unnecessary, and I'm the only manager, I would delete as a cleanup without discussion needed.

However In the Colonial American trees, where there are old fabricated pedigrees in circulation and more recent research disproving older findings, I think I would at least use "contact manager" on the tree top profile seeking advise & consent.

Jason Scott Wills
I dont feel like paging thru 400 profiles, is there a way to filter for profiles i manage or curate?

To find profiles you manage in a project.

- Open the project
- Click on the number of profiles in the project, this will open up a list of all the profiles
- On the left side menu, go down to 'managed by' and add your name.
- Go down a little further and click 'update list'

To find who added particular profiles into the project

- Open the project
- clicking the number of profiles in the project, this will open up a list of all profiles
- On the left side menu, go down to columns, and add 'Added By' (you can also add 'Managed By')
- Go down a little further and click 'update list'

A note about the above, I do not know if it will give you only profiles that you are the 'primary' manager of.

My person thought on profiles in this project, is that the manager/curator of the profile should investigate each profile and where appropriate delete the profile or if not appropriate to delete remove it from this project.

My reasons, are
- This will give an audit trail back to the person who decided the profile should be deleted
- Any family member, collaborator or curator can add a profile to this project without consulting or discussing it with the managers of the profile
- I thought that deleting someone else's profiles without notice/discussion was considered rude and probably against geni's t&c's.

If someone other than the profile managers or curators of a profile thinks a particular profile should be deleted, they should start a discussion about the profile and tag all the profile managers and come to a consensus on whether to delete the profile.

This is a collaborative environment and we all need to work together.

Small point but shouldnt need to tag all managers. Geni will automatically advise all Followers if a Discussion is started from a profile.

Othet than that i agree with u

Note that unlike deletion, disconnecting a profile gives no warning to the profile managers.

If you intend to delete the profile, deleting it is a faster way of calling attention to the fact from the managers than disconnecting it and waiting for someone to notice.

To find profiles that you manage that are no longer attached to anyone:

To find profiles you manage in a project.

- Open the project
- Click on the number of profiles in the project, this will open up a list of all the profiles
- On the left side menu, go down to 'managed by' and add your name.
- On the left side menu, go down to columns, and add 'Immediate Family'
- Go down a little further and click 'update list'

The ones that do not show anyone in the "Immediate Family" Column will be ones that are currently not attached to anyone (spouse, parents, children)