Dag Eilifsson Bratsberg - Evidence of parents?

Started by Harald Tveit Alvestrand on Tuesday, November 15, 2016
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11/15/2016 at 1:17 PM

This Dag has two parents: Eiliv Torsteinsson, jarl (985-1050) and Eiliv Ormsson Bratsberg (born ca 1050).

Given that this profile's Geni-estimated date of birth is 1060-1100, and that Dag was an active warrior and chieftain in 1102, I think it's reasonable to cut the connection to the older father-candidate.

The younger father-candidate is the grandson of the older, so nobody will lose any ancestry over this.

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11/15/2016 at 3:17 PM

Gange-Hrólfr 'Rollo' of Normandy is Hernán Alfonso Larenas Chávez's 28th great grandfather!

11/15/2016 at 4:41 PM

Dag isn't a descendant of Gange-Hrolf (he's descended from his brother), so why is this relevant?

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11/16/2016 at 6:09 AM

Harald Tveit Alvestrand,
What is your opinion on the path through Klevar? I have been struggling with this route and its historical credibility particularly where it applied to Tone Torbjornsdatter Sodheim & Reine (and her mothers birthdate).
Thank you.

11/16/2016 at 5:20 PM

Private that is Thorny Torbjørnsdatter, who is Dag Eilifsson Bratsberg's 10th great granddaughter?

I have no opinion about her at all, not having looked at her - let's start a discussion on that profile, and I may form one. Martin Severin Eriksen is the curator.

I don't see a "Klevar" in the path, so I'm not sure what you're thinking of.

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11/17/2016 at 10:57 AM

Harald Tveit Alvestrand, I am sorry I didn't explain better. My connection to Dag Eilifsson Bratsberg runs thru Tone Torbjornsdattr Sodheim & Reine and four generations of Klevar (I assume it is a farm due to patrinomic names still being used). I am still working on this fork in the road sort to speak.
There is a connection to Kane group as well if the connection of her mother and her actual birthdate can be ascertained.

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11/17/2016 at 1:00 PM

The discussion on her mother Elin Henriksdatter Gyldenløve, til Asdal Elin Henriksdatter Gyldenlove til Asdal has started a few days ago that works at the periphery of this item.

11/17/2016 at 1:38 PM

Looking at the Klevars, Rolleiv Anundson Klevar has some mention of sources on the profile, and confirms that Klevar used to be one of the largest farms in Sauherad, Telemark.

So yes, that's a path worth considering if you're looking for valid paths. There seems to have been work done to document that line.

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11/18/2016 at 9:46 AM

Thank you Harald! I thought it was probably a large farm with multiple generations of "landed" people in that line...most of my later relatives in Sandland were poorer until we got to the USA and got black dirt rich in the prairies of Minnesota and North Dakota LOL..
That means that a potential line is now possible through Kane as well to be explored next. I am still waiting on some clarification on DNA results as I have as many hits in Scotland as I do in Norway and Sweden, and to my knowledge I have no relatives (known) who are Scottish...wasn't even sure of Swedish connections either until the Jamtland connection. Telemark is a long way from Froso.

11/18/2016 at 2:25 PM

This is Klevar on the map: https://www.google.co.kr/maps/place/Klevar/@59.458604,9.2963974,181...

The creek running through the middle of the picture is labeled "Klevaråa" (Klevar river).

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11/21/2016 at 11:01 AM

Thank you Harald!

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