Elizabeth Allen (White) - Date of Birth of Elizabeth White - Verify

The narrative says:

Elizabeth White (c.1582 - 1682)

And under the actions menu - resolve data conflicts show.

Try resolving them, then I'll field lock the values.

I resolved the conflict that was showing for Elizabeth.

Thomas Gardner, "Old Planter"

The link above is the eldest child attributed to Elizabeth is Thomas Gardner, "Old Planter"
born 1591. If she was born in 1682, she would have been 11 at the time of his birth.

Thanks.

Hello Christine, I did some research and I don't know how my name became on there. Her parents and children's trees were created by someone else. I only have my trees for direct ancestors. Elizabeth is my cousin so I wouldn't have create this tree. The way geni merges trees frustrates me. Gregg

Private User I'm at a loss aside from to note that the date is a circa date in the reference source:

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~fordingtondorset/...

29. This is confirmed by the pedigree written by Rev John White in the 1634 Visitation of Hampshire page 230 which was published and attested to by William Ryley Esq of Lancaster a Herald at Arms and published in 1903. The Manor of Little Bourton was purchased by Thomas GARDNER of London from William & Catherine MATHEWE in the year 1565 (See link provided to British History On-Line - From: 'Parishes: Great and Little Bourton', A History of the County of Oxford: Volume 10: Banbury hundred (1972), pp. 175-184.). This seems very early to be our Thomas Gardner unless he was considerably older than Elizabeth White who according to Rose Troup (page 393) is unlikely to have been born before 1582. Elizabeth's husband was probably therefore his eldest son named after him. We know from Thomas Gardner's will that his eldest son Josiah inherited the Manor in 1633 but Josiah went to the West Indies in 1650. British History also gives a reference for Josiah in 1648 as O.R.O., Misc. Pe.V/3 which might be worth further research. The Manor appears to have remained in the Gardner Family however until sold to Thomas Wyatt of Cropredy in 1716 (Ref Ibid. Pe V/10; Bodl. MS. Ch. Oxon. 2658)

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Private User this doesn't look to be a merge error. It's more a genealogical question.

I am at a loss as well. I admit that the Ancestry app "We're Related" is what drove me to Geni to check on this the accuracy of a suggestion that I am related to Benjamin Franklin through Isabel Bawle. Maybe someone has a good, sourced genealogy for him somewhere that could shed some light? Not sure.

" This seems very early to be our Thomas Gardner unless he was considerably older than Elizabeth White who according to Rose Troup (page 393) is unlikely to have been born before 1582. Elizabeth's husband was probably therefore his eldest son named after him."

Try Victoria County Histories as referenced in the source.

English genealogy is a whole other ball of wax.

I think we should disconnect Thomas Gardner, "Old Planter" from parents Thomas Gardner, "Old Planter" & Elizabeth Allen

I'm pretty sure the citation source refers to a different Thomas Gardner.

What does the great migration project have?

(I answered my own question)

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000049231386299&

The Great Migration project has "origins unknown," and so shall Geni shortly.

Very glad you raised the question !

We'll find you another connection to Ben Franklin. :)

Thank you Erica Howton

Erica Howton So as far as the birthdate of Elizabeth Allen (White), since her first child was born about 1600 now, she is probably closer to that 1582'ish birthdate rather than that 1564 - yes?

" Elizabeth White who according to Rose Troup (page 393) is unlikely to have been born before 1582. "

Can someone change the profile to reflect this? It is locked at 1564. Erica Howton

Sorry! Thought I had done so before.

Thank you Erica Howton