Aldgillis II (Poppo) Koning Der Friezen - Sources?

Korzystam w tym przypadku z danych zawartych w GENI. Patrz ścieżka. Innych danych nie posiadam. Moim skromnym zdaniem sprawdzenie tych danych jest zajęciem dla historyków i kuratorów. Ciągłe dyskusje ze skromnym użytkownikiem poszukującym swoich krewnych są irytujące. Gdybym miał możliwość wyłączeniem tej funkcji pewnie bym z niej skorzystał. W ciągu jednego dnia potrafi być ich kilkadziesiąt. Zwykle są to informacje, że ktoś znalazł swoich krewnych. Zawiadomienia te odrywają od pracy i generalnie są denerwujące. Doceniam dążenie do poprawności danych ale wnioskuję o przemyślenie sposobu ich wprowadzania.

If you remove yourself as a manager, you won't be tagged in the Discussions. While you are a manager, the presumption is that you want to help maintain the profile.

Sharon in another discussion we are in you asked for sources reading the van Friesland kings
Rather than flood all the discussion with the same info I thought I would put what I just found in here ...

http://wikipediaaudio.com/Abba_(count)

Of the first historically verifiable rulers of Frisia, whether they are called dukes or kings, the last royal dynasty below is established by the chronicles of Merovingian kings of the Franks, with whom they were contemporaries. In these contemporary chronicles, they were styled dux, a Latin term for leader which is the origin of the title duke and its cognates in other languages (duc, duce, doge, duque, etc.). They were independent until the death of Radbod at the earliest.
Finn, son of Folcwald, is a semi-legendary figure. He was killed by Hengest, who later migrated to Britain and founded the Kingdom of Kent. For rulers prior to Finn the later Frisians developed a rich store of legend and myth, and these too are listed here in chronological order.
After coming under Frankish rule, Frisia was governed by Frankish counts and by potestates elected by the Frisians.

List of rulers

Kings
Finn Folcwalding, legendary (400?)
Audulf, 600
Adgillus I (Aldegisel I), ?-680
Radbod I (Redbad I), 680-719
Poppo, 719-734

Counts and Margraves

In 775 the Franks under Charlemagne took control of what remained of Frisian territory and incorporated it into their kingdom. Counts appointed by the Frankish rulers were:
Godfrey, 810-839 (a Danish invader)
Rorik, 839-875 (cousin of Godfrey)
Gerulf I, 875-883
Gerulf II, 883-916 (Friesland incorporated into the County of Holland in 922)
Dirk I, 916-939
Dirk II, 939-988
Arnulf I, 988-993
Dirk III, 993-1039
Dirk IV, 1039-1049
Floris I, 1049-1061
Dirk V, 1061-1091
Floris II the Fat, 1091-1101, Frisia is formally incorporated in Holland, when the title "Count of Frisia west of the Vlie" was changed to "Count of Holland". Continues in Counts of Holland.
Liudolf, 1028-1038
Bruno, 1038-1057
Egbert I, 1057-1061
Egbert II, 1068-1089
To Utrecht: 1089-1099
Henry I the Fat, 1099-1101

Potestates
Most of the early potestaats are completely legendary.
Magnus Forteman, fl. 809 (first recipient of the Karelsprivilege)
Taco Ludigman, fl. c. 830 (Focko Ludigman) (protected the country against pirates)
Adelbrik Adelen, fl. c. 830 (won a victory over a Swedish duke at Kollum)
Hessel Hermana, 869-876 (a diligent warrior against the Vikings)
Igo Galema (Ygo Galema), 876-910
Gosse Ludigman, 986-1000
Saco Reinalda, 1150-1167 (many Frisians were recruited into the crusades to the Holy Land)
Sicko Sjaerdema, 1237-1260 (Count William II of Holland offered him regional rule of Friesland)
Reinier Camminga, 1300-1306 (killed in the fight against "Danes Noertmannen ende")
Hessel Martena, 1306-1313 (protected Friesland against the attacks of the counts of Holland)
Juw Juwinga (Jonghema Ju), 1396 (killed in the Battle of Schoterzijl against Albert I, Duke of Bavaria)
Sytse Dekama, 1397-?
Gale Hania
Odo Botnia, ?-1399
Sjoerd Wiarda, 1399-1410 (elected by the Schieringers for Oostergo)
Haring Haringsma (Haring Harinxma, or Haring Thoe Heeg), 1399-1404 (elected by the Schieringers for Westergo)
Juw Dekama, 1494-1498 (died 1523) (only governed Oostergo)
With the victory of the Schieringers against the Vetkopers, the office passed to the dukes of Saxony:
Albert, Duke of Saxony, 1498-1500 (appointed by Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor)
Henry IV, Duke of Saxony, 1500-1505 (died 1541)
George, Duke of Saxony, 1505-1515 (died 1539)

Stadtholders
In 1515, George of Saxony sold Friesland to Charles of Habsburg, the future Emperor. The Habsburgs appointed the following governors:
Floris van Egmond, Count of Buren and Leerdam, 1515-1518
Wilhelm von Roggendorf, 1518-1521
Georg Schenck van Toutenburg, 1521-1540
Jancko Douwama, 1522
Maximiliaan van Egmond, Count of Buren, 1540-1548
Jean de Ligne, Count of Arenberg, 1549-1568 (in 1556 sovereignty of Friesland passed to Philip II of Spain, son of Charles V)
Karel van Brimeu, Count of Megen, 1568-1572
Gillis van Berlaymont, of Hierges, 1572-1574
Caspar de Robles, Master of Billy, 1574-1576 (or 1572-1576)
George van Lalaing, Count of Rennenberg, de Stadhouder-verrader, 1576-1581 (after 1580 in the service of Phillip II)
Francisco Verdugo, 1581-1594 (in the service of Phillip II)
Willem I van Oranje-Nassau, 1580-1584
In 1581, Friesland and six other provinces revolted and formed the Dutch Republic. The office of stadholder became hereditary in the House of Oranje:
Willem Lodewijk van Nassau, 1584-1620
Ernst Casimir, 1620-1632
Hendrik Casimir I, 1632-1640
Willem Frederik, 1640-1664
Hendrik Casimir II, 1664-1696
Johan Willem Friso of Orange, 1696-1711
William IV of Orange, 1711-1751 (the seven provincial stadtholders within the Dutch Republic merged in 1747)
William V of Orange, 1751-1795 (died 1806) (Stadtholder-General of the Dutch Republic until it was destroyed by Napoleon)

Fictional rulers
A description of a course at the University of Amsterdam states ""One of the characteristics of Frisian historiography and literature from the Middle-Ages up to the nineteenth and twentieth century is the existence of a comprehensive corpus of fantastic, apocryphal and mystified historic works, which deal with the origins and identity of the Frisians. Well known examples are medieval myths of origin like the Gesta Frisiorum or the Tractatus Alvini, sixteenth-century humanistic scholarly books by e.g. Suffridus Petrus, Ocko van Scarl en Martinus Hamconius and nineteenth-century forgeries like the Tescklaow and the infamous Oera Linda Book."
The 17th century chronicle Frisia seu de viris rebusque illustribus, by Martinus Hamconius, purported to list the ancient kings of Frisia, beginning with Friso who had allegedly migrated from India during the time of Alexander the Great. A 19th century work, the Oera Linda Book (authorship uncertain but considered to be a hoax), embellished these stories further by describing an ancient and glorious history for the Frisians extending back thousands of years, during which time they were supposedly ruled over by a line of matriarchs known as folk-mothers, founded by the eponymous goddess Frya, ancestress of the Frisians.

Goddess and Folk-mothers
According to the Oera Linda Book.
Frya, ?-2194 BC (eponymous ancestress of the Frisians, who supposedly inhabited all of Northern and Western Europe)
Fasta, 2194-after 2145 BC (appointed by Frya when the latter ascended to the stars during a terrible flood)
Medea
Thiania
Hellenia
(unknown)
Minna, fl. 2013 BC (faced an invasion of Finns from the east, who settled in the Frisian lands in Scandinavia)
(unknown)
Rosamond, 1631-? BC (the Frisians in Western Europe revolted and became the Celts)
Hellicht, fl. 1621 BC
(unknown)
Frana, ?-590 BC (murdered by the Finns during an invasion)
Adela (de facto), 590-559 BC (supposedly ordered the compilation of what became the Oera Linda Book)
(vacant)
Gosa, 306-before 264 BC (elected after a long vacancy, Frisian rule confined to approximately the modern Netherlands)
(vacant)
Prontlik, fl. c. 60 BC (puppet folk-mother appointed by King Asinga Ascon)

Kings
According to the Frisia seu de viris rebusque illustribus (and the Oera Linda Book).
Friso, 313-245 BC (Adel I Friso (de facto), 304-264 BC) (established a militaristic hereditary monarchy)
Adel, 245-151 BC (Adel II Atharik, 264-? BC)
Ubbo, 151-71 BC (Adel III Ubbo)
Asinga Ascon, 71 BC-AD 11 (Adel IV Asega Askar, or Black Adel) (reviled for employing foreign troops and bringing plague)
Diocarus Segon, 11-46
Dibbaldus Segon, 46-85 (? Verritus) (forced to accept Roman protection, and may have visited Rome in person)
Tabbo, 85-130 (? Malorix)

Dukes
According to the Frisia seu de viris rebusque illustribus.
Asconius, 130-173 (title downgraded to duke as a Roman client)
Adelboldus, 173-187
Titus Boiocalus, 187-240
Ubbo, 240-299
Haron Ubbo, 299-335
Odilbaldus, 335-360
Udolphus Haron, 360-392

Kings
According to the Frisia seu de viris rebusque illustribus (and Merovingian chronicles).
Richardus, Uffo, 392-435 (? Finn Folcwalding)
Odilbaldus, 435-470 (? Sibbelt)
Richoldus, 470-533 (? Ritzard)
Beroaldus, 533-590 (? Audulf)
Adgillus I, 590-672 (Aldegisel, ?-680)
Radbodus I, 672-723 (Radbod I, 680-719)
(Poppo, 719-734) (not listed in the rebusque)
Adgillus II, 723-737 (Aldegisel II)
Gondobaldus, 737-749 (Gundebold, or Aldegisel III)
Radbodus II, 749-775 (Radbod II)

Notes

References
Ancient Holland: The History of the Lowlands
Petz, G.H. (ed). MGH Scriptures. (Hanover, 1892).

Many of those profiles I add in 2014... those were the ancestors I added that were disconnected from Radbad I van Friesland as his ancestors. The same ones you question as being fictitious

I just thought I would share with you what I found a few years back.. I just found it again tonight.

Thanks for this, Dorothy - good to keep to remind us what is known to be fictional while we're looking for Primary Sources.