Is it possible to create a profile and park it here in this archive without the profile being linked to a tree?

I think that is the idea, Mr Beaurain :). What I do is select any profile in Tree View and then add a brother and sister. And then Edit that profile's relationships by cutting the ties to the incorrect father and mother. There you have a stand-alone profile not llinked to the tree.

Then you add that profile to this project.

I just picked this profile from this project... and added the profile and all relatives to the tree.

Susanna Magdalena van Niekerk

My question is whether such a profile should now be removed from this project Private?

I am sorry Jan, but I am unable to follow you line of arguing.

On my screen Susanna Magdalena van Niekerk is not a stand alone profile, her profile is connected to my tree.

It says thatSusanna Magdalena van Niekerk is my second cousin four times removed.

Unless this connection only came about after your explanation and before I looked at her profile.

Johan, the first part of my message was on how to do this.

The second part (Susanna Magdalena) is not related to your request, but my own but which I thought were related to yours (i.e. your request got me thinking...)

Johan is not a PRO user so he does not permission to cut relationships and create standalone profiles...

Johan you would have to ask a PRO or a curator to do it for you, and then request permission to manage the profile.

I added this profile as your son:

Louisa Maria De Klerk

and then broke its relationship to you, it is now a standalone profile for you to use.

I also added you as primary manager, which you need to accept.

Okay thanks for that clarification. That also explains to me why i often have no clue what you people are talking about.

Jan and Johan. Until we have set up the different archives projects we will move it there.
The profile is already linked to the BIG TREE so it is not a stand alone profile . That is the Susanna Magdalena profile.
If it was not ON the big tree yet it should go to the project Don set up as - help me here Don - Lost and found or stray project.
Sjoe ek sal in Afrikaans moet verduidelik.
Johan jy sal gou leer. Ons en veral Don kan jou baie help met die tegniese deel.
Juds

Hmmm I looked at Don's project and also Charmaine's one, but none of the two absolutely convinces me that it is solely for profiles linked to this project. So there will soon be another Archives project for profiles that have South African source documents but are not linked 100% to the tree?

I intend to use my project: https://www.geni.com/projects/CuZZin-Stray-Sources/38488 for any SA source document that is "stray" not yet linked to a GENi profile, and a place for people to create profiles from that source information.

However I am waiting for Judi to complete the "construction" of her project so I do not overlap with her intent, which is STILL unclear..

Private

Jan the Archival Sourced South African project is still under construction. As soon as it is divided into the different provices we will move the names there.

Tis project is solely for South African Archived Sources, being DN', Will's, birth certificates, marriage certificates, etc. that ARE ALREADY linked to the big tree and "dan kan die boom verder aangevul word" with the information of the source i.e. children, in laws, grandchildren, in other words building correct info and world tree.
In the meantime please just add the typewriter as profile pic if there is nothing else.

That will be making the moving easier.

Don I will gladly put any profiles that I can not link in your or Charmaine's projects, depending where the doc (source) came from.

I am unfortunately just working on work as well and also on a deadline.

Kind regards
Judi

Just require a little bit more clarity, when we talk about the 'Geni World Tree' and a profile linked to it, for me that is always a tree that works to/from the top. I.e. it has at LEAST one parent+ linked to one or more profiles on the World Tree.

Children+ do not count.

Although technically if the children are linked through spouses they would be included in the world tree... i.e. the green border. (But for me it does not qualify....a profile is only 'solved' when both parents are Geni linked)

Okay guys I have used that profile that 'temp Beaurain' profile that Donavan created for me.

It is now called: Louisa Maria De Klerk.

1. I have also added the source documents to her profile.
2. I have also added all the other members of her family that was mentioned on those source documents.
3. These profiles are now available to all of you.
4. You can now park all of these profiles in the archive so that it can be accessed by everyone else that might search for any information related to that.

Thank you very much for your help and assistance. if you did not open this opportunity for me these profiles would still have been unlisted.

The best place to park your profile now is here Johan:
https://www.geni.com/projects/South-Africa-isolated-trees/13870

Thanks Donovan, I joined that project and I tried to add that profile of Louisa Maria De Klerk, but I am not sure if it worked.

I cannot see her name now on that project.

Johan dink jy dit sal al in Dr de Klerk se navorsing wees.
Ek forward vir jou sy naam met die naam van Louisa Maria de Klerk of is sy Beaurain. Ek sal net eers in die boek kyk.
Groete
Judi

A Johan hy is welliswaar reeds opgespoor en in Dr David se boek - wat as Beste Navorsingstuk van die jaar in 2014 aangewys is. Van Vogelvallei na verre lande. Pa 186
Die DVN Nommer van haar man is b6 c10 ANDRIES PETRUS (PIETER) JACOBUS DE KLERK *23/11/1868, spoorwegarbeider. Getroud Middelburg Tvl 1/2/1892 met Jacoba Elizabeth VAN WYK *Middelburg Tvl ca 1872 Huisvrou Sy sterf Pretoria 29/11/1899 was die dogter van H Willem van Wyk en A M de Beer.
Hy trou 2de TE pIETERMARITZBURG OP 11/8/1902 LOUISA MARIA BEAURAIN(BEAUMAIN) * Vrystaat 20/6/1878 Oorlede Middelburg Hospitaal, Middelburg Tvl 4/9/1934 d.v. Barend Beaurein en Johanna Beatrix WOLMARANS.

APJ de Klerk is ouers is Nicolaas Willem (Nuklaas W) en sy tweede vrou Johanna Maria Aletta DU PLESSIS ).

Ek glo dit is al op Geni onder de Klerk. Ek sal kyk en vir jou die link stuur.
Judi

Johan
Daar is hy en sy nou aan die groot boom gekoppel so dit is nie meer 'n stand alone tree nie.
Groete
Judi

Johan I have also linked it to the de Klerk familie/Family.
Private User will you be able to assist with the technicalities of the on big tree and not on isolated trees. I don't want to mess up.
Groete/Regards
Judi

Okay thanks Judi, yes I was also wondering how we are now going to clear up the mess that we have created.

It is only the one profile that is now linked to the big tree, the others are still unlinked, so I think we only need to remove the one profile from the isolated tree project.

I thought maybe it should be something that can be programmed so that it can happen automatically.

But who would have the skills to write such a little program as an add on to Geni?

Groete

Johan Beaurain

Plesier Johan. Ek antwoord op jou vraag in PM.

Johan ons moet nou die Beaurains gekoppel kry. Ek het Dr. David ook as profiel bestuurder genooi. Hy sal wel alles hê.
Judi

Ja... en Wolmarans.

Johan ek sal daarna ook kyk sodra ek kans kry. Wolmarans is nogal ook vir my belangrik.