Veltin "Valtin" Helm, II - Alternative Data After Merges

Death Date 1633 OR c. 1660

Can somebody *in* Germany do a looky-loo?

By the way, the "main" Helm line is Y-DNA type I (I think it's standard I-M23 but would have to look it up). There's a secondary Helm(s) line that's J-M319, from the same general area, and how they got split off is completely unknown (but must involve a Non-Parental Event of some sort).

I-M253 :-P

Interesting to know.

The "secondary" J line is mine - or strictly speaking my brother's. It runs back at least into the 18th century - Georg Helm, who lived in Winchester, VA in the mid-18th century, is a collateral male-line relative. (He apparently came from another of those townlets, Airlenbach, in the Beerfelden area.)

I haven't been able to find out exactly *how* we're related - the trail goes cold with Daniel Helms, Sr. who shows up in Baltimore County, MD in the late 18th century and marries a daughter of Jacob Uppercue (originally Opferkuch, I think *that* family was Bavarian but not sure). He may have been right off the boat.

Don't you just love family history :-)

Death Location Gammelsbach, Starkenburg, Hessen, Germany OR Gammelsbach, Beerfelden, Darmstadt, Hessen, Germany

It depends on who's drawing what lines, and when. :-)

Nowadays the latter designation would be more likely. Gammelsbach (hamlet), Beerfelden (town), Darmstadt (region), Hessen (state). "Odenwaldkreis" (Odenwald district) is sometimes inserted as a sub-region between Beerfelden and Darmstadt.

Comparable US instance, heh heh: Chappaqua (hamlet), New Castle (town), Westchester (county), New York (state).