(Code27) JOHN ROBERTS of Warwick Township

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Private User
8/13/2016 at 9:37 AM

9.279. John Roberts, Warwick Twp.
January 7, 1818. Proved July 17, 1818.
Jonathan Roberts and William C. Rogers of Warwick exrs.
Jonathan Roberts and Elizabeth Lovett ch. of bro. Jonathan, December'd.
John Roberts, son of Jonathan and Fanny of Warwick.
David, Jonathan, John, Phebe, Hannah Livezey ch. of nephew David Lewsley.
Sisters Pheby Roberts and Lydia Loosely.
John Lovet son of Rodman.
Rebecca Whiitingham [sic], widow of William December'd. and her dau. Rebecca Coggins.
Wits: Benjamin Hough, Francis G. Lukens, Henry Stuckert.

as we see: John died in 1818 and had for family"
Sisters: 1) Pheby (unmarried) and Lydia Loosely (Roberts)
Lydia's son is David Lewsley (sic) who has children named...

Private User
8/13/2016 at 9:57 AM

http://person.ancestry.com/tree/80098066/person/42430754903/facts

John Roberts m. Susan Wood?
His sister Pheby seems to have died unmarried as she does not have a husband in 1818 and her DOB is 1734. She is said to have died in 1827.

Private User
8/13/2016 at 10:10 AM

... but John Roberts has a son named Jonathan (c.1740-c.1810). This son may have had offspring (hoping for a Phebe there!)

Private User
8/13/2016 at 11:08 AM

I started building a standalone tree for this Pvt. John Roberts (of the SAR filing) (Code27) JOHN ROBERTS of Warwick Township

Private User
8/13/2016 at 12:45 PM

The use of the given name Phebe is quite frequent in this family.
In looking for a Phebe/Feby/Pheobe Roberts, I need to keep in mid that she was born in 1801 or 1802...

Private User
8/13/2016 at 12:51 PM

So much more research is needed for the family of Pvt. John Roberts of Warwick .
The trees on ancestry dot com do not agree with each other... It is all so maddening. Pvt. John Roberts of Warwick may have male siblings whose descendants may include the Phoebe Saxton (Roberts) I'm looking for.

Private User
8/13/2016 at 1:18 PM

Pvt. John Roberts may have had a son JOHN http://person.ancestry.com/tree/80098066/person/42431946706/facts
who died ? 1818... But the chronicler MATTEA makes a confusing entry for his DOB...

Private User
8/13/2016 at 1:20 PM

also : This tree seems to be a source of questionable data http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/81697386/family?cfpid=42521027544

Private User
8/15/2016 at 3:35 AM

In the 1805 Taxables : (Pvt ?) John and Joseph are listed side by side.
Joseph has 2 daughters who are in the the right age ranges for either of them to be Phebe Saxton (Roberts)

Private User
8/15/2016 at 3:45 AM

Looking at Joseph in the 1820 census:
Name: Joseph Roberts
Home in 1820 (City, County, State): Warrington, Bucks, Pennsylvania
Enumeration Date: August 7, 1820
Free White Persons - Males - Under 10: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 10 thru 15: 1
Free White Persons - Males - 26 thru 44: 1
>>Free White Persons - Females - 10 thru 15: 1
>>Free White Persons - Females - 16 thru 25: 1 (hypothetical Phebe)
Free White Persons - Females - 45 and over : 2
Number of Persons - Engaged in Agriculture: 2
Free White Persons - Under 16: 3
Free White Persons - Over 25: 3
Total Free White Persons: 7
Total All Persons - White, Slaves, Colored, Other: 7

Private User
8/15/2016 at 4:01 AM

If Joseph is the son of Pvt. John, Joseph does not appear in John's will.
There are 4? individuals in Pvt. John's Household in 1810 (see project). Pvt John is an older, so children would have left the nest. Let's look at the 1800 census...

Private User
8/18/2016 at 5:44 AM

Turning to Pvt. John's nephew, Jon't Roberts of the 1810 Census. His profile: Jonathan Roberts, Jr. of Warwick . We see he has a female in his household age 0-10 years old... THis is a candidate for Phoebe too.

Jonathan of Warwick (Nephew) also appears in the 1820 census.

Private User
8/19/2016 at 4:46 AM

Jonathan (Decembered) seems to have had a will : March 19, 1810 the abstract of which states:
ROBERTS, Jonathan. NO LOCATION GIVEN. March 19, 1810. 8.119.

Private User
8/19/2016 at 4:47 AM

Phebe Roberts was alive in 1810 ... Maybe she is named in the will?

Private User
8/20/2016 at 12:03 PM

There is, in the 1790 census of Bristol, Philadelphia County a "Jon't" Roberts for which I have made a screen capture. I think this may be the brother of Pvt. John Roberts of Warwick. recorded are I think
1) four 16 and over
2) four 0-16 year males
3) four females

~ we have to remember: There are many, many Roberts families...

Private User
8/20/2016 at 2:31 PM

Pvt. John Roberts may not be the son of Jonathan... perhaps he is the son (or brother) of a Joseph Roberts of the same Township

Private User
8/21/2016 at 10:08 AM

https://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=project&photo_id=600...

This shows Roberts wedding at local Presbyterian Churches

Private User
8/21/2016 at 10:10 AM

https://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=project&photo_id=600...
Strongly suggests that John was married as Johannis Roberts to Jannetye Bennet in Feb 1766 at the Presby Church in Churchville... not far from Neshaminy Presby. Church

Private User
8/21/2016 at 10:40 AM

The preceding is proven wrong: Johannis was born earlier and had a far different set of offspring than that shown by the Pvt. John will.

Private User
8/21/2016 at 10:48 AM

http://person.ancestry.com/tree/12405100/person/1077923120/facts

Hannah Roberts marries Morgan Meredith
Hannah Roberts
1778–1867
BIRTH ABT 1778 • Pennsylvania
DEATH 6/23/1867 • Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
and is the daughter of
Jonathon Roberts
1740–1809
BIRTH ABT 1740
DEATH 1809 • Warwick, Bucks, PA
and the grand daughter of
John ROBERTS
–1784
BIRTH Unknown
DEATH BEF 9 JUL 1784 • Warwick, Bucks, PA < tis last date doesn't fit

Private User
8/23/2016 at 6:41 PM

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&amp;GSsr=81&amp;GS...;

a woman Cornell Roberts

Birth: unknown
Death: Feb., 1789


Inscription:
daughter of Wilhelmus Cornell

Burial:
Low Dutch Reformed Church Cemetery
Richboro
Bucks County
Pennsylvania, USA

Private User
9/2/2016 at 4:35 AM
Private User
9/5/2016 at 12:41 PM

HAVING JUST VISITED RICHBORO'S Union cemetery to honor Phebe Roberts Saxton at her final resting place is becomes even clearer just how close Warwick and the Neshaminy Presby. Church is to that site... Something that also is of interest: Phebe's husband is the first burial at Union... How did that come to be?

Private User
9/5/2016 at 1:41 PM

While were on the topic of roads of the general area: There is a Roberts Rd, Warminster, PA 18974..... perhaps linked to Pvt. John Roberts' family.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Roberts+Rd,+Warminster,+PA+18974/...

Private User
9/6/2016 at 3:58 AM

"In August of
1777, the American Army of 11,000 men camped for 13 days in and around the
"Cross Roads" as Hartsville was known. The encampment stretched along both
sides of Old York Road, on the slope of Carr's hill to the north; on both sides of
Bristol Road from Mearns Road to Meetinghouse Road."
http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/cs/groups/public/documents/document/dcn...
Mearns Road is near Roberts Road

Private User
9/6/2016 at 5:35 PM

The old hipped-roof house at the end of John W. Griffith's lane, on the
road from Chalfont to Montgomeryville, is the oldest dwelling in that part
of the township. It was owned in 1769 by Joseph Hubbs, who then kept
store in it. The father of Mr. Griffith, who remembered it in 1775, said
it was an old house then, but it is not known by whom it was built. The
Griffith homestead is nearly an hundred years old. Thomas Jones, born in
Wales about 1708, came to this county at the age of eighteen, and settled
in New Britain or Hilltown. He was twice married, the first time to
Martha West, who died in 1759, and afterward to Jane Smith, and was the
father of about twenty children. He acquired a large landed estate, and
settled his sons around him. The mother of the Reverend Joseph Mathias
was a daughter of Thomas Jones. [The Roberts family, also Welsh, in new
Britain from 1721 to 1790, owned a tract half a mile square near Spruce
Hill. <JOHN ROBERTS> , the first purchaser, bought land of Joseph Kirkbride.
They disappeared before the close of the century.*]

http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/bucks/history/local/davis/davis23.txt

Private User
9/14/2016 at 11:29 AM

In reference to the Neshaminy Presbyterian Church it is good to read its background: "The next thirty-five years were marked by unusual religious excitement
and activity. It was during this period that the celebrated Whitefield
visited America, and stirred up the hearts of the people to their lost
condition, and Zinzendorf and his disciples from Hernhutt settled in the
wilderness on the beautiful Lehigh. The religious fervor prevailing
through the provinces manifested itself in this county, and churches
multiplied rapidly. The Neshaminy Presbyterian church was founded about
1720, possibly before, Southampton Baptist church in 1730, the
Presbyterian church at Newtown in 1734, the church in the midst of the
Scotch-Irish settlements along the Deep run in Bedminster about the same
time, and the New Britain Baptist church, an offshoot of Montgomery, and
the child of a religious quarrel, in 1744. In the establishment of these
early churches, the parent of denominational religion in this county, we
read in plain characters the history of the immigration of the period, for
places of religious worship only kept pace with the spiritual wants of the
population. It was during this period that the Brainards, with courage and
self-denial equal to the early Jesuit missionaries, labored among the
Indians in the Forks of Delaware, and now and then came down into the more
settled parts of the county to preach, at Neshaminy, Newtown, and
elsewhere. In 1726 Reverend William Tennent, one of the great lights of
his generation, was called to the Neshaminy church, and the same year he
established the Log college on the York road, half a mile below
Hartsville, which for years was the only school south of New England at
which a young man could be fitted for the ministry.

Private User
9/22/2016 at 8:09 AM

The will of Jonathan Roberts, Warwick Company is now in my hands.
In it he names a Son Jonathan Jr., two daughters and his grandchildren then living.
(I assume he did not leave any grandchildren out)

I have added the grandchildren to GENI. There is no Phebe Roberts.
Jonathan, Jr., the only son, had (1809) two children: NANCY & Jonathan.

So this rules out this line as a candidate for PHEBE Saxton (ROBERTS)

Private User
4/13/2019 at 6:44 AM

One thing to keep in mind: There area at lest two contemporary John Harts... one of Warwick who died in 1818 and another John of Northampton who died (I think) in 1789.
These two communities are right next to each other. John of Northampton had 186 acre +/- right before he died... It is he whom I think is my direct ancestor, not Pvt. John of Warwick buried at https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/36038485/john-roberts

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