Col. Francis Triplett - Colonel Francis Triplett's confusion, too may Francis'. Will the real Father please step up?

Erica Isabel Howton

8/10/2016 at 10:18 PM

I consider Lyon Gardiner Tyler, editor of the WIlliam & Mary Quarterly, one of the guru's of Southern Genealogy (Stannard is another). The only way they've been shown incorrect is by more recent studies, such as DNA or new wills unearthed, etc. So the question is to ensure that the dense prose is read and interpreted correctly.

GENEALOGY OF THE TRIPLETT FAMILY

https://books.google.com/books?pg=PA117&lpg=PA117&d...... page 117 - 121

Col. Francis Triplett (1728-1795) who married Benedicta Sennett, daughter of Robert Sennett of Charles County, Maryland; The Will of Francis Triplett was dated Sept. 24th, 1794, was proved in Fauquier County, Jan. 26th, 1795.

Col. Francis Triplett

Now backing up a page in W&MQ:

page 112 - 116

27. Francis4 Triplett (Francis3, Thomas2, Francis1) is mentioned as one of the sons of Francis (7) Triplett of Truro Parish, in the Will of the latter proved Nov. 22, 1758

that looks like Francis Triplett, of Truro Parish who married Elizabeth Coleman

... and also like Francis Marion Triplett, III who married Mary Elizabeth Browne

So now lets back up to page 43, as referenced, and look for number 27

https://books.google.com/books?id=vikjAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA38&......

7. Francis3 Triplett (Thomas,2 Francis1) was a voter in Prince William county in 1741, and when Fairfax county was taken out of Prince William county, he was a resident and voter in Fairfax county in 1744 (see "Gleanings of Virginia History" by Boogher, pages 118, 119). The will of Francis Triplett, dated Oct. 4th, 1757, was proved in Fairfax county, Nov. 22d, 1758. He mentions his wife Elizabeth and his children and grandchildren. His Inventory is dated Feb. 18th, 1759 (Will Book B, page 204, Fairfax county). The names of his children mentioned in his will are: ...

(27.) Francis Triplett.

Still a touch ambiguous, let's look for number 7.

https://books.google.com/books?id=vikjAQAAIAAJ&pg=PA33&......

2. Thomas2 Triplett (Francis1) ...

(7.) Francis Triplett—Prince William county; was a voter in Prince William county in 1741, and subsequently a resident and voter in Fairfax county, 1744. He left many descendants, who are mentioned later in this record. ...

Gahh.

I would cross check against wives. I'm 90% with you though.

Erica Isabel Howton

8/10/2016 at 10:46 PM

Now - the research of Erin Spiceland (geni curator) on World-connect offers yet different parents:

From http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&am...... (citing Erin's db & other sources)

Conflict: Some records show his parents were Francis Triplett and Elizabeth Browne.

"Col. Triplett fought in the French and Indian War. His father was William. He married Benedicta Sennett. Their children were William after his father, Hedgeman after his mother's family, his eldest daughter Betty after his mother, Robert, Frances Emelia, etc. The name Hedgman appears only among the descendants of William Triplett of Prince William County, Virginia and it was perpetuated by his posterity for several generations. - Genealogies of Virginia Families By Tylers Quarterly Historical and Geneological Magazine.

So pedigree from daughter Benedicta who married a cousin shows here

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&am......

... Totally different from how I read Rev. A. H. Hord's work, as described here:

http://www.maierassociates.com/Genie/gbtri030.html

Erica Isabel Howton

8/10/2016 at 10:46 PM

Now - the research of Erin Spiceland (geni curator) on World-connect offers yet different parents:

From http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&am...... (citing Erin's db & other sources)

Conflict: Some records show his parents were Francis Triplett and Elizabeth Browne.

"Col. Triplett fought in the French and Indian War. His father was William. He married Benedicta Sennett. Their children were William after his father, Hedgeman after his mother's family, his eldest daughter Betty after his mother, Robert, Frances Emelia, etc. The name Hedgman appears only among the descendants of William Triplett of Prince William County, Virginia and it was perpetuated by his posterity for several generations. - Genealogies of Virginia Families By Tylers Quarterly Historical and Geneological Magazine.

So pedigree from daughter Benedicta who married a cousin shows here

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=AHN&am......

... Totally different from how I read Rev. A. H. Hord's work, as described here:

http://www.maierassociates.com/Genie/gbtri030.html

Erica Isabel Howton

8/10/2016 at 10:51 PM

SAR Mag has his parents as Francis Triplett & Elizabeth unknown

https://books.google.com/books?id=-OcQAQAAMAAJ&lpg=RA2-PA62......

Erica Isabel Howton

8/10/2016 at 10:49 PM

Here's the Tyler's Quarterly

https://books.google.com/books?id=55I38FXWyPgC&pg=RA2-PA608......

Erica Isabel Howton

8/10/2016 at 10:51 PM

SAR Mag has his parents as Francis Triplett & Elizabeth unknown

https://books.google.com/books?id=-OcQAQAAMAAJ&lpg=RA2-PA62......

Erica Isabel Howton

8/10/2016 at 10:49 PM

Here's the Tyler's Quarterly

https://books.google.com/books?id=55I38FXWyPgC&pg=RA2-PA608......

Erica Isabel Howton

yesterday at 1:39 AM

Well, I'm being convinced Erin got it right.

Check out Mike Marshall's database:

http://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I02208...

William(3) Triplett married Elizabeth Hedgman, daughter of Nathaniel Hedgman, of "Accokeek," Prince William County, and sister of Major Peter Hedgman. (snip)

William(3) Triplett mentions in his will, dated May 10, 1748, and proved in Prince William County, April 24, 1749, "my loving brother (brother-in-law) Major Peter Hedgman" as an executor, and mentions "my loving wife Betty Triplett." His children named in his will were James Triplett, Thomas Triplett (each of whom received 150 pounds by the will of their uncle, Peter Hedgman), Francis Triplett, John Triplett, Nathaniel Triplett, Daniel Triplett, William Triplett and daughters, Elizabeth Triplett and Sarah Triplett.

He bequeathed the two tracts of land, 515 acres and 300 acres in Culpeper County, to sons John, Thomas and Nathaniel; 423 acres "lying on Chappawamsic" to son, James, and if he died to son, Francis Triplett; 500 acres on Quantico Creek for the use of his wife during her lifetime and after her death to his son, William Triplett; mentions his "youngest children" under 21 years of age, namely, Nathaniel, John, Francis, Daniel, William.

There can be no doubt that Francis Triplett named in this will was Colonel Francis Triplett of Fauquier County. In proof of this fact it should be stated that:

(1) Colonel Francis Triplett was a "Volunteer in the Militia of Prince William County" in the French and Indian War, as stated in the official record (Journal of the House of Burgesses, April 28, 29, 1751), and this fact definitely connects him with Prince William County; also his name appears with that of "G. (George) Hedgman," son of Major Peter Hedgman, in an official paper of Washington. (See "Letters to Washington," edited by Hamilton, Vol. I, p. 340.)

(2) Colonel Francis Triplett married Benedicta Sennett, daughter of Robert Sennett, Senior, of Charles County, Maryland. Colonel Francis Triplett named his eldest son, William, after his father; his second son, Hedgman, after his mother's family and his eldest daughter, Betty Hedgman, after his mother (see the will of Francis Triplett proved in Fauquier Co, January 26, 1795). The Fairfax County branch of the Triplett family were not connected by marriage or in any other way with the Hedgman family. The name Hedgman does not appear in that branch of the Triplett family. The name Hedgman appears only among the descendants of William Triplett of Prince William County and it was perpetuated by his posterity for several generations.

Erica Isabel Howton

yesterday at 1:39 AM

Well, I'm being convinced Erin got it right.

Check out Mike Marshall's database:

http://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I02208...

William(3) Triplett married Elizabeth Hedgman, daughter of Nathaniel Hedgman, of "Accokeek," Prince William County, and sister of Major Peter Hedgman. (snip)

William(3) Triplett mentions in his will, dated May 10, 1748, and proved in Prince William County, April 24, 1749, "my loving brother (brother-in-law) Major Peter Hedgman" as an executor, and mentions "my loving wife Betty Triplett." His children named in his will were James Triplett, Thomas Triplett (each of whom received 150 pounds by the will of their uncle, Peter Hedgman), Francis Triplett, John Triplett, Nathaniel Triplett, Daniel Triplett, William Triplett and daughters, Elizabeth Triplett and Sarah Triplett.

He bequeathed the two tracts of land, 515 acres and 300 acres in Culpeper County, to sons John, Thomas and Nathaniel; 423 acres "lying on Chappawamsic" to son, James, and if he died to son, Francis Triplett; 500 acres on Quantico Creek for the use of his wife during her lifetime and after her death to his son, William Triplett; mentions his "youngest children" under 21 years of age, namely, Nathaniel, John, Francis, Daniel, William.

There can be no doubt that Francis Triplett named in this will was Colonel Francis Triplett of Fauquier County. In proof of this fact it should be stated that:

(1) Colonel Francis Triplett was a "Volunteer in the Militia of Prince William County" in the French and Indian War, as stated in the official record (Journal of the House of Burgesses, April 28, 29, 1751), and this fact definitely connects him with Prince William County; also his name appears with that of "G. (George) Hedgman," son of Major Peter Hedgman, in an official paper of Washington. (See "Letters to Washington," edited by Hamilton, Vol. I, p. 340.)

(2) Colonel Francis Triplett married Benedicta Sennett, daughter of Robert Sennett, Senior, of Charles County, Maryland. Colonel Francis Triplett named his eldest son, William, after his father; his second son, Hedgman, after his mother's family and his eldest daughter, Betty Hedgman, after his mother (see the will of Francis Triplett proved in Fauquier Co, January 26, 1795). The Fairfax County branch of the Triplett family were not connected by marriage or in any other way with the Hedgman family. The name Hedgman does not appear in that branch of the Triplett family. The name Hedgman appears only among the descendants of William Triplett of Prince William County and it was perpetuated by his posterity for several generations.

Lloyd Alfred Doss, Jr.

yesterday at 6:11 AM

Maybe too much for this message, may need a discussion, there are more such as Erin as you mentioned and Geoffrey Trowbridge among others that have contributed to this line a great deal. As I stated, there are so many Francis', Mary and Elizabeth, and to make it even more difficult, each generation has these names and ages are so close. This is why I wanted to get other, more educated than I in this genealogy magic, such as yourself and the others to give input. I appreciate your help Erica, in all of this history we are building for our descendants, you have been a great friend and educator for me. Lloyd

Lloyd Alfred Doss, Jr.

yesterday at 6:47 AM

Still really unclear as to which Francis he is. Looks like two votes for father being William (Colonial settlers link and Rootsweb) one for Francis (SAR) and my reference of W & M Vol. 21. Should we leave it or change?

This is exactly why I wanted others involved, there are references and arguments that can be made in any of the three lines, all of which come through same beginnings from Francis I. This being the only saving grace that we are at least in the same "ballpark" so to speak.... just unsure of which base we are on!

It was originally on Geni as Francis III being Col. Francis (IV) father, I worked it and did some merges etc. from other unfinished "lost" profiles, cleaned it up and then put him back where he was under Francis III.

May be one of these profiles we will never clear up, I am as you, about 90%, but I tend to want to believe the Quarterly's versus some other genealogy links that I'm not really sure where the info came from. I use links such as "Find-A Grave", etc. when I have nothing else but you really don't know if this info is accurate or not... These sites are better as secondary links for additional verification

Erica Isabel Howton

yesterday at 1:36 PM

Yes, I think we need a Triplett family discussion, it's a big tree with way too many Francis'.

For the Francis + Benedicta line, I would work on detailing their family & descent first.

There are a couple of logic pieces which are inclining me to support William + Elizabeth Hedgman as parents.

1. The Hedgman son name! And this does not contradict W&MQ, which has his mother as Elizabeth (no last name mentioned). "The name Hedgman appears only among the descendants of William Triplett of Prince William County and it was perpetuated by his posterity for several generations."

2. The Prince William County location. This seems distinct from the Fairfax county "main line."

Erica Isabel Howton

yesterday at 1:51 PM

Now in terms of verifying. As you know, in Virginia genealogy there are limited "Vital Records" (birth, baptism, marriage, death, burial).

So the main genealogical tools are (let me know if I'm missing any from this list! And of course it varies by location and time frame)

- surviving marriage books (Northern Neck especially)
- wills (luckily, many of the surviving ones have been abstracted and published)
- land transactions
- tobacco (!!!) transactions

There are private records held by the plantations also, some have been studied, published, donated to libraries, etc.

So why I had said "cross reference by spouse" is because we know Benedicta Sennett married Francis Triplett because of her father's will. This is a great find.

Unfortunately it looks like we have three different Francis' who "could" have been "that" Francis. But we can work now on the "children" of Francis & Benedicta & "their" spouses, and mention in "their" wills. I've been able to verify identity from analyzing grand children! (a trick ! Use it !!!)

The other more readily available tool is land transactions. This is why Mike Marshall's database is so useful: he collects those records and snips them into the appropriate profile.

So compare the three Francis candidates (son of William + Elizabeth, son of Francis + Elizabeth, son of Francis + Mary) in http://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I02208... and let's see how they stack up.

Erica Isabel Howton

yesterday at 1:51 PM

Now in terms of verifying. As you know, in Virginia genealogy there are limited "Vital Records" (birth, baptism, marriage, death, burial).

So the main genealogical tools are (let me know if I'm missing any from this list! And of course it varies by location and time frame)

- surviving marriage books (Northern Neck especially)
- wills (luckily, many of the surviving ones have been abstracted and published)
- land transactions
- tobacco (!!!) transactions

There are private records held by the plantations also, some have been studied, published, donated to libraries, etc.

So why I had said "cross reference by spouse" is because we know Benedicta Sennett married Francis Triplett because of her father's will. This is a great find.

Unfortunately it looks like we have three different Francis' who "could" have been "that" Francis. But we can work now on the "children" of Francis & Benedicta & "their" spouses, and mention in "their" wills. I've been able to verify identity from analyzing grand children! (a trick ! Use it !!!)

The other more readily available tool is land transactions. This is why Mike Marshall's database is so useful: he collects those records and snips them into the appropriate profile.

So compare the three Francis candidates (son of William + Elizabeth, son of Francis + Elizabeth, son of Francis + Mary) in http://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I02208... and let's see how they stack up.

Erica Isabel Howton

yesterday at 1:54 PM

Re: Should we leave it or change?

This Francis has historical significance due to his military record. Well worth the effort to get it right.

Erica Isabel Howton

yesterday at 1:54 PM

Re: Should we leave it or change?

This Francis has historical significance due to his military record. Well worth the effort to get it right.

Lloyd Alfred Doss, Jr.

yesterday at 2:00 PM

True, need it to be as correct as possible. Leave it for now and perhaps someone else will dig into it also as it is a fairly overwhelming project. I will attempt to chip away at it from Francis/Benedicta down, looks as though there are issues of duplicates there also as far as same children under different parents, truly a twisted mess due to so many merges in times past.

I would leave it for i been looking into it long time

Thanks for replying Standingbear, was beginning to wonder if anyone else even cared about this line. I saw where you are on some of the profiles. I am going to work from Francis and Benedite on down as Erica requested. Please look at the reference links above from various sources and you will see the confusion. There are good "credible" sources that have him under many different fathers. Fortunately he is at least under the correct Great grandfather.

Francis M. Triplett who married a daughter of Robert Sennett, their history you will find in Pleasant Co. W.Va. They are buried in the Triplett Cemetery in that county. Robert and Francis Triplett were Wood Co. first survayor.