Viewing more trees

Great job by you and the team

Kind regards
Jan

Any idea on when we can share the same ability with people that don't have a Geni account?

Thanks, that solved the last problem allowing celebrities which want to be a Geni user to be as public as master profiles by lowering their privacy shield allowing people to see their About Me and tree.

Jonathan, - I just checked, - as a logged out user I can see the tree of Hillary Clinton which is a MP and linked to from the bottom of the tree view, https://www.geni.com/tree/index/6000000001961459395, but not Mike's as he linked to above.

There is a difference in the links "/family-tree/index/" versus "/tree/index/", but it did not make any difference, so Mike probably missed a spot.

Mike?

re: "Thanks, that solved the last problem allowing celebrities which want to be a Geni user to be as public as master profiles by lowering their privacy shield allowing people to see their About Me and tree." -- and if the Celebrity does not want to be as Public as a Master Profile on Geni - there is no way to not have the Tree shown - or is there?

Not worse than earlier, - you can always see the path to the celeb at profile level, but if the surrounding profiles is private there is not much to see for the last steps anyhow.

Great change Michael

re: "but if the surrounding profiles is private there is not much to see for the last steps anyhow."
As I see it, just not true.
Often you can see the full name of many of those profiles because many of them are claimed - in many cases, because the relative looked once as a courtesy to their relative who invited them/put up the tree, but has not interest and will never look again - but full name now displayed.
For married women, you can usually see married name as well as birth surname.
For many folks, no family shows when you look at their Profile - not sure how, but there is a way to choose to hide that. But I believe that does not remove the folks from the Family Tree - just from being listed on the Profile - or am I wrong?
ALSO - if a person makes use of "Share Your Tree" as in "Send or post this URL to share a limited read-only view of your tree:" - That version has folks listed with first name and last initial - so between the two (shared Tree version, and View Tree from Private Profile), you now have all the information, at least as far as names and relationships. Not sure which way is used in "Embed Your Tree" (in Social Media site) - but am guessing that is also First Name, Last Initial - is that correct? - So again, between the two, all info revealed. at least as far as names and relationships go.

Private User I'm not going to make a global change that allows non-users (logged-out) to view the trees of claimed profiles, however I believe we can add this as an option on our Permissions settings page.

Private User There is no option to hide the immediate family module on your profile, but I'll agree this change makes it a little easier to quickly see where there are claimed or public profiles nearby. That said it was not impossible (or even difficult, really) to do so from the profile page immediate family links -- I stand by the assertion that it's no new information.

Mike Stangel
There is no option to hide the "immediate family module" - but each of the immediate family members can be hidden.
So - for those folks who hide some or all their immediate family members - when one clicks "View Tree" - does one see those folks in the Tree even tho they are hidden on the Profile, or ??

Yes they are still in the tree view.

Recent Change: Now, in Tree View, any Private Profile outside your Max Family and not managed by you or someone in your Max Family [think that is correct characterization] appears as "No Name" - both for Claimed and Unclaimed Profiles. This came in sometime within the past two weeks. Does anyone know exactly when this change was implemented?

I thought implementation of Tree View from everyone's profile was a bit too much like privacy invasion - this majorly lessens the info we can get not only from these, but from the Tree Views we had for years.

Anybody like this? Anybody hate it? Was it done on purpose to increase Privacy, or ?

Does it affect Curators, or can they still see names on all the Profiles in Tree View, since they can edit all the Profiles?

I noticed that one too. I assumed it was for privacy and don't have an issue with it except for their choice of "Title".

"No Name" gives the impression that GENI is full of profiles with no information.
A better choice might have been "Living" or "Name withheld"

Since "No Name" is what we see if info in the Name Fields has been deleted, I agree it is extremely misleading to do it that way.

Apparently it may possibly be bug introduced with the addition of a Field for Title to the Basic Data.
Remains to be seen.

Mike Stangel - is it a bug, or did Geni purposely change it so those of us not Curators only see "No Name" in Tree View for Private Profiles - including Claimed Profiles - not in our Max Family or managed by someone in our Family Group?

If it was on purpose - since "No Name" is what shows when name has been blanked out, perhaps choose a different term - perhaps one of Leanne's suggestions above.

Hi Private User, it was not intentional. There may be two things going on: first, a bug has definitely caused old tree connections to now-deleted profiles to reappear. These are showing up in the tree as "No Name" but when you click on them, you're given the message "That profile is no longer available." We're in the process of cleaning those up, but it will take most of today.

Second, it's possible some recent naming changes in the tree are responsible for other instances of "No Name" -- we'll investigate these once we've cleaned up the first problem.

Mike Stangel - Those of us not staff or Curators are still seeing "No Name" in Tree View for Private Profiles - including Claimed Profiles - not in our Max Family or managed by someone in our Family Group. Are you still working on cleaning up the first problem you refer to above, or ??

Private User you know me well enough by now that I need you to post an example!

Mike Stangel - When I look at your Tree, for example, (ie I click on your name, then click on View Tree -- initial view shows every single box saying "No Name" -- (it is your Tree, so will not appear that way to you) - if I move around till I get to where the Public Profiles are - they appear normally.

Nothing but "No Name" on every single Private Profile in Tree View - any and every one of them, Claimed and unclaimed - unless it is one I have edit permission on or one claimed by someone in my Max Family.

And that is for every Tree View any and every place on Geni.

In another discussion about it back Oct. 25 I gave another example, asked if Curators saw it this was - am told no - then am told yes, with Curator access temporarily suspended - starting here, and for next three comments after it: https://www.geni.com/discussions/156925?msg=1114204
[in last one, I link to your comment above from 10/25 saying it was a bug]

Mike Stangel

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7852751/Geni/Screen%20Shot%2020...

Screen shot of Private User's tree from my account.

Private User got it - we've released a fix. Thanks to you and also Jonathan Scott Krengel for your assistance.

Mike Stangel, much better looking. Thank you for the quick fix once identified.