(Code17) JAMES ROBERTS 9... {1F u10} : an explanation of research

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Private User
8/9/2016 at 4:49 PM

A James Robert is the father of three who were married at on different days at Hinkle's Tavern in Newtown.
Recent merges have linked these 3 couples to Geni's WOrld Famiy Tree. As yet there is no confirmed link to Phebe Saxton (Roberts).

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8/9/2016 at 4:53 PM

Take a look at the following profiles:
James Roberts of Northampton
Caroline Bothwell
Ann Jones
Charles Roberts
and, of course,
Phebe Saxton

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Private User
8/9/2016 at 5:21 PM

Taking a look at all the James Roberts who are on the Bucks County 1810 census we see:
(Code1) JAMES ROBERTS {1 FEMALE UNDER 10} of Bensalem
(Code17) JAMES ROBERTS 9... {1F u10} of Northampton

Now, Bensalem and Northampton are neighboring Townships, but the big difference is that the ages of (Code17) JAMES ROBERTS' daughters as shown in the census match the marriages as found at the tavern in Newtown. (See Caroline Bothwell (Roberts) & Ann Jones (Roberts))

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8/12/2016 at 5:54 PM

This might be a major breakthrough: It's a will that names a James Roberts of the general area and time:
7.40. Mary Roberts, Bristol Twp.
April 3, 1793. Proved December 18, 1804.
Bro. James Roberts exrs. Bros. Edward, William and John Roberts.
Wits: William Coxe, Andrew Allen.

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8/12/2016 at 5:56 PM

all I have to do is find a Roberts family that has siblings named:
Mary (a spinster?), James, Edward, William, and John

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8/12/2016 at 5:57 PM
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8/12/2016 at 6:25 PM

A James Roberts named again

7.138: Richard Rue, Bensalem Twp.
July 28, 1796. Proved February 7, 1806.

Wife Rebecca and nephew James Roberts exrs.
Nephews Joshua Rue, son of Bro. Samuel; Israel and James Rue sons of Bro. Joseph;
Bro. Mathew, who has been maintained by me for many years to be maintained
by nephew James Roberts, son of Timothy Roberts December'd., to whom I
devise all my lands and residue of Estate.
Wits: Samuel Cox, Joseph Thompson, Nicholas Larzelere.

<< see: http://person.ancestry.com/tree/7612689/person/6874933400/facts >>

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8/13/2016 at 3:05 AM

New Jersey, Marriage Records, 1683-1802 for Mary Rue
Volume XXII, Marriage Records 1665-1800
She married Timothy Roberts on April 15, 1735 and they then had children
JAMES, Edward, Mary, William and John

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Private User
9/9/2016 at 1:03 PM

The JAMES in the prior post may be (Code 17) James' father...

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9/9/2016 at 10:53 PM

Still looking for the third daughter born c. 1801...in a range between 1800 and 1810.. < may be Phebe Saxton

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9/14/2016 at 7:59 AM

===Marriage===
~• Married at Hinkle's tavern aka the Brick Hotel (read below for the identification:

"Sixty-five years ago (14), Newtown was still the county seat, with the stone
jail, court-house, and "row offices" on the green. It was the polling place
for the middle and lower end of the county, and the second Tuesday of October
was made a day of frolic and horse-racing, accompanied by many free fights.
The streets were lined with booths, where cakes, pies, and beer, large and
small, were freely sold. Newtown, in early times, was the seat of public
fairs, at which the whites and blacks from the surrounding country gathered
to make merry in large numbers. Isaac Hicks, justice of the peace for many
years, lived on Main Street below Carey's tavern, and dressed in breeches.
'''Charles Hinkle kept the Brick hotel, and was succeeded by Joseph Archambault about 1825.'''

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9/14/2016 at 8:12 AM

The tavern is different than the hotel, and was evidently once known as the Bird-in-Hand ...
Read:
" We have no means of guessing the population of Newtown when it became the
county seat. Eighty years ago it contained about fifty dwellings, and
tradition tells us that at that time one house in ten had license to sell
liquor, besides the keeper of the jail, and the only known building along the
west side of Main street were the academy and that occupied by the National
bank. The built-up portion of the town was on the east side of Main street,
between Penn street and Washington avenue. Robert Smock's estate owned all
the land on that side of the street, including the Brick hotel, from the
avenue up to the bridge across the creek, except one lot. A map of that
period gives but nineteen building lots on the east side of Main, between
Penn street and Washington avenue, and only twenty real estate owners on that
side as far as the street extends, not including the county. Of the streets,
that on the west side of the creek was known as the "Other" street, while
those crossing the common, from the lower to the upper end, bore the names of
Lower, Bridge, Middle, now Washington avenue, Spring, Yonder, and Upper
streets. At that day Newtown had four taverns. The property on State street,
now T. Wilson, Miller's, was owned by John Torbert, and kept by Jacob
Kessler, who married Doctor DeNormandies' widow. It next came into the
possession of Asa Carey, who called it "Bird in Hand" (12), then to his
widow, Tanner, whose ginger cakes gained great celebrity. To his duties as
landlord Mr. Carey added those of postmaster. The present temperance house
was kept by one Dettero, then by Samuel Heath, and next by Samuel Hinkle, a
German, who was the standing court-interpreter, and in his absence his wife
officiated, The property at one time belonged to General Murray, but the name
under which it was kept is lost. Hinkle moved from there to the Brick hotel,
whose history will be given elsewhere. The fourth tavern stood on the east
side of Court street, near the court-house, and is now a private dwelling,
owned by Mrs. Heyd. It was built in 1792, and called the "Court inn." It
belonged at one time to Joseph Thornton, but the last keeper was a Wilkinson,
who acquired celebrity in nicking and setting horses tails in good position
[He was probably the same person who kept the tavern at Centreville for
several years. (13)] One large room, known as the "Grand Jury room," was used
as a ball room, and in it the late Colonel Elias Gilkyson first met the lady
he afterward married. The property was purchased by Joseph Briggs in 1817,
and used it as a dwelling; though large, his family found it none too large,
as he had five or six children of his own, two unmarried sisters and one of
his wife's lived with him."

Note:
"(12) This house is called in ancient conveyances "Old tavern" and the "Old
house." The house next north of it was called "the Justice's house." In olden
times Bird in Hand occurred among the trades tokens, and represented the
proverb "one bird in the hand is worth two in the bush." It was literally
rendered by a hand holding a bird."

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Private User
9/14/2016 at 8:14 AM

I report all the references to Hinkle's tavern because sevral of (Code17) James Roberts' children were married there.

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9/14/2016 at 8:30 AM
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Private User
9/23/2016 at 9:40 AM

Ann Jones
Lived a long life and had offspring, living a scant 7 miles from Newtown.

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9/23/2016 at 11:18 AM

I am researching wills. Charles, son of James, may be promising if the citation I have for him is correct.: Book 14 Page 325 died 1858.

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1/9/2017 at 10:33 AM

Jan. 9, 2017
Dea Fran Waite (of Newville PA):

More checking and cross-checking of your work with things I had assembled has allowed me to conclude that James Roberts and Charlotte Plumly are the parents of Phoebe (Roberts) Saxton.

I had a related reference that went along with your find on the will of Anne Paxson and her bequests (p. 20 of “Who was Phebe Roberts”)

Here’s how it all fits together:

A.

http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/plumley/220/
Marriage: Plumley, Edmund to Ann Roberts, both of Northampton Twp., by Jonathan Lefferts, Esq. m. 8 Nov 1827

B.

Will of Anne Paxson of Southampton 13 Jun 1857, proved 20 Jul 1867. wife of Israel Paxson.
Property of my bother John Gregg, deceased. Among many bequeaths are:

Edmund Plumly son of Mahlon and Edith Plumly
Thomas H. Roberts son of James and Charlotte Roberts
• These two events, a marriage and a will, taken together identify Ann Roberts and Thomas H. Roberts as children of Charlotte and James Roberts.

C.

Phebe Roberts married Joseph Saxton. They named their 1st child Plumly... Might Charlotte wife of James be a Plumly? Or, were the Plumlys and Paxsons benefactors of the (poor) Roberts family?

D.

Making the supposition that Charlotte is a Plumly, I searched the geni database for <Charlotte Plumly> There is one match; and it fits: Charlotte Roberts (Plumly)

Birth: March 8, 1772 • Northern Liberties,Philadelphia County,Pennsylvania • Daughter of William Plumley and Jane Plumley (Yardley)

All of this is enough for me to close out the search ... Phebe Saxton (Roberts) is the dau. of James Roberts and Charotte Plumly.

Going forward:

I have a Plumly tree going back. It goes to other family with whom I’m acquainted.
I do not have a Roberts tree going back from James.

<Case closed on Phebe's parents>... unless Charlotte is a step-mother.... (worth research)

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1/10/2017 at 5:11 AM

Southampton early history includes <DILWORTH>
http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/bucks/history/local/davis/davis13.txt

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1/10/2017 at 5:18 AM

The Vansants were early Southampton Township (Bucks Co.) settlers: http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/bucks/history/local/davis/davis13.txt

As the location and soil were inviting, settlers flocked in rapidly, and
in 1709 we find the additional names of Stephen Sands, '''John Vansant''',
Thomas Cutler, James Carter, John Naylor, Joseph Webb, John Frost, John
Shaw, Clement Dungan, Jeremiah Dungan, James Carrell, John Morris, Thomas
Dungan, John Clark, David Griffith, Christopher Day, Nathaniel West,
William Gregory, and Samuel Selers. The Dungans were sons of Reverend
Thomas Dungan, the same who emigrated from Rhode Island, and organized the
Baptist church at Cold spring, near Bristol, in 1684. Joseph Dungan,
grandson of the Reverend Thomas, died August 25, 1785, in his
seventy-sixth year [78th*] and was buried at Southampton. We find no
further mention of Thomas Cutler, but William, who was an early settler
there, died in 1714. They were probably brothers of John Cutler, who made
the re-survey of the county in 1702-3. James Carter died in 1714. '''John
Morris bought 582 acres of James Plumley in 1698, which lay in the upper
part of the township, between the Street road and county line, and a
considerable part, if not all, north of the Middle road'''. When the
re-survey was made, in 1702, Thomas Harding was one of the largest land
owners in the township, his acres numbering 618. Joseph Tomlinson was
there early, and died in 1723. April 20, 1705, 417 acres were surveyed, by
warrant, to Thomas Callowhill, the father-in-law of William Penn, situated
in the upper part of the township, and bounded by the Street road and
Warminster line. It covered the site of Davisville. John, Thomas, and
Richard Penn inherited this tract from their grandfather Callowhill, and
January, 20, 1734, they conveyed 149 acres by patent to Stephen Watts. The
land of John Morris bounded this tract on the southwest."

(Plumley figures in Robert's family marriage)

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Private User
1/13/2017 at 5:09 AM

Either there were two James Roberts of Northampton & Southampton respectively or James moves as a tenant from place to place. We see a James as a tenant of Thomas Dungan in Southampton in 1798 records.
https://www.geni.com/photo/view/6000000045098377020?album_type=phot...

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1/13/2017 at 2:13 PM

Might James (final) son shown on the 1810 census be Jesse? There was a Jesse who lived in Southampton in 1841

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1/14/2017 at 3:01 AM

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In searching for the parents of James Roberts, father of Phebe Saxton (roberts), it may be of interest that James worked Lieut. Thomas Dungan's farm and, a generation before, Edmond Roberts was also connected to the Dungan family (as shown) They all lived in southwest Bucks county.

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1/20/2017 at 1:52 PM

http://interactive.ancestry.com/8802/007726654_00001?backurl=http%3...

There is not a single James Roberts in: Pennsylvania, Wills and Probate Records, 1683-1993; Bucks Will Abstracts 1685-1795
That would have helped

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1/20/2017 at 4:34 PM

Charlotte Roberts wife of James... is a Plumley.
The Bucks County Roberts <>Plumly <>Paxson connections are long standing:

Notes:

http://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/plumley/220/

Will of Anne Paxson of Southampton 13 Jun 1857, proved 20 Jul 1867. wife of Israel Paxson.

Property of my bother John Gregg, deceased. Among many bequeaths are:
# '''Edmund Plumly''' son of Mahlon and Edith Plumly
# Thomas H. Roberts son of James and Charlotte Roberts

• Read > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~paxson/plumley/Pl... for a summary.

''Charles (Plumley) died in 1683 and Marjorie married as her second husband Henry PAXSON. His wife had died at sea on the voyage to Pennsylvania two years earlier. The couple brought their intention to be married to Middletown Monthly Meeting, as was the proper order among Friends. They were found clear of impediments and at the monthly meeting held on 4 Sixth Month [August] 1684 were given liberty to marry. The marriage took place in a meeting for worship on the 13th, the first marriage under the care of Middletown Meeting.''

''In 1688, shortly after her eldest son William married, there was a shuffling of land in order to give him a farm. All of the property of Margery Paxson, of course, immediately upon her marriage, had become Henry's. So Henry Paxson gave his step-son William 100 acres fronting on the Neshaminy Creek and adjoining the land of James BOYDEN, which land had been conveyed by Samuel ALLEN to Charles PLUMLEY, William's father, on 13 October 1682, along with 100 acres "in the wood as yet untaken up or unlaid out". In return William gave Henry 125 acres, which was the "upper moity" of 250 acres granted to Margery adjoining the Neshaminy and land of Nicholas Waln. This is the tract marked on Holmes's map.''

~• there is a connection to Ann Paxson (Gregg) is that her mother was a Plumly too...

==Will of an Edmund Plumly husband of Ann !! not Ann Roberts!!==

[http://interactive.ancestry.com/8802/005534512_00158?pid=1647672&am... Southampton will]

• July 15, 1850
• wife Ann
• five children

# Mary (Parker)
## Edmund Parker ''grandson''
# Mahlon
# Charles
# David
# John

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Private User
1/25/2017 at 5:44 PM

It is now looking even more certain that John Roberts of Northampton is James Roberts' father.

And I add this list of people who served from Northampton just prior to the Revolution. It contains some familiar names:

Northampton Company, August 19, 1775

Captain, Henry Lott, aged 68; first lieutenant, Gerardus Wyncoop; second
lieutenant, John Kroesen; ensign, John Thompson.
Privates Ð John Addis, Jr., Enoch Addis, Arthur Bennet, John Bennet,
Isaac Bennet (swamp), John Bennet, Jr., John Bennet (Arthur's son),
William Bennet, Isaac Bennet, Jacob Bennet, Matthew Bennet, Adrian Bennet,
Isaac Bennet (George's son), Clement Richardson, Jeremiah Richardson,
Jonathan Shaw, Arthur Leffertse, Leffert Leffertse, Abram Leffertse,
Richard Leedom, William Mannington, Timothy MaGinnes, Jacob Myers, Daniel
McDaniels, George Parson, Robert Parsons, William Parsons, Samuel
Richardson, Guliam Cornel, Rem Cornel, John Cornel, Jacob Cornel, Amos
Suber, John Hayes, Robert McMaster, Hule Tomb, John Thompson, William
Randler, John Randle, JOHN ROBERTS, John Rankin, John Torbert, John
Porter, Stafford Graham, Robert Johnson, Robert McGrandy, Joseph Parker,
Benjamin Vanhorn, Isaac Vanhorn, Jr., Robert Vanhorn, James Vanhorn, Henry
Stoneman, Steven Howell, Benjamin Carrol, Christian Corsen, Cornelius
Corsen, Daniel Corsen, Cornelius Corsen, Jr., Henry Corsen, Hugh Cummins,
James Cox, William Carter (cooper), John Carter, Abraham DuBois, Jacob
Duffield, Henry Dyer, Charles Dyer, Elias Dungan, Gerret Vanartsdalen,
Gerret Dungan, THOMAS DUNGAN {James Roberts' landlord}, Joseph Dungan, Jesse Dungan, Jeremiah Dungan
(Jeremiah's son), Thomas Dungan (Jeremiah's son), Jonathan Willard, George
Willard, William Wiggins, Reyneir Bennett, Ferrington Vandeventer, Henry
Wynkoop, Isaac Wynkoop, Thomas Searle, Mathias Wesmer, George Meysner,
Francis Taggart, Paul Judges, Philip Dracord, John Fisher, Joseph
Tomlinson, Levi Choepin, James Brown, Gerret Kroesen (weaver), Hugh Evans,
Gawn Edams, Joseph Fenton, Jr., John Fenton, Cornelius Fenton, Henry
Feaster, David Feaster, Nathaniel Featherby, Nathan Gilbert, James Gregg,
Christian Hagerman, John Hagerman, Jr., Adrian Hagerman, Thomas Hellings,
William Harvey, John Kroesen, Jacob Kroesen, Gerret Kroesen, Gerret
Kroesen (John's son), Joseph Knowls, Christian Keyser.

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1/25/2017 at 5:49 PM

JAMES GREGG, too. He's a Plumly... Charlotte Plumly Roberts' sister married a Feaster.

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4/12/2019 at 7:01 AM

The investigation about James has moved into a different discussion attached to his profile.

My focus in April 2019 is now on a Pvt. John Roberts who lived in Northampton township and died c. 1789. I am thinking that he is James' father.

Coincidental discoveries seem to tie the John Roberts farm to modern Warminster..
There is a Roberts Road that may be in the location of the old 186 acre farm...

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4/12/2019 at 7:03 AM

Go to John's and James' profiles to read recent additions:
John Robearts of Northampton
James Roberts of Northampton

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