Judikje Raphael Leefsma - Who was the father of Judikje?

Started by Private User on Tuesday, June 28, 2016
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Private User
6/28/2016 at 4:41 AM

Hello,
As we know so far, Judith Judikje Raphael Hijmans Leefsma is probably the daughter of Heiman. But visiting the cemetery in Gorredijk in the Netherlands I found out her father's name was Raphael Schapp, probably from Veenendaal, Utrecht, The Netherlands
I wonder how this contradiction can be solved

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Tal

Private User
6/28/2016 at 11:07 AM

Judith Hijmans was married with Mozes Levy Leefsma.
Two of here sisters were married with a Schaap.

Can you tell me more what you foud about Raphael Schapp?
Schapp is Schaap!

I have the tree corrected now and merge the same profiles I found

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Robert

Private User
7/4/2016 at 2:17 AM

These are two separated Schaap families to the best of my knowledge: the Gorredijk Schaaps (my family) and the Utrecht Schaaps. I didn't find any relations between them until this lady here - Judikje Leefsma. Thats why I'm interested. she could be the missing link...

Private User
7/16/2016 at 11:37 AM

The two sisters were married to Schaaps from Utrecht. The names on the gravestone is written שעפס.
The Schaaps from Gorredijk wrote their name שאחף.
These are two different families.
From Judikje's gravestone we know she was the daughter of rafael שאחף.
to the best of my knowledge he is not a member of the Friesland's Schaaps. The name doesn't run in the family.
We may look for birth records, marriage records and so on,
The bottom line: It the may a mistake to include her as a daugther of Raphael Hijmans. Who was her father remains a mystery.

Private User
7/16/2016 at 5:09 PM
Private User
7/21/2016 at 12:40 AM

Hello David,
Yes, you are right. I found a similar record in the Friese registration (the dates are a bit different). What we don't find are birth records. I found the lady under different names in Frieseland - Juduse Raphaels Heimans
Judikje Rafiels Heimans
Judik Raphael Hijmans
Judigje Rafaels Heimans
Grietje Raphaëls Heimans
but nothing about her father. And yet, the name on her tombstone is Schaap.
I don't believe we can solve this. She might have been adopted. Maybe some kind of a family scandal happened... Anyway, on her grave, where you write the ultimate truth, her husband Mozes Leefsma writes: her father was a Raphael Schaap.

Private User
7/21/2016 at 2:34 AM

I agree there is a contradiction between
(a) Her marriage and other records; and
(b) The Hebrew writing on her tombstone

In my experience, just because something is written on a tombstone does not make it "the ultimate true". That is particularly the case where the writing is in Hebrew, not many might have been able to read it, and stonemasons got away with all kinds of mistakes.

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