William "The Conqueror", King of England - Hey people, whats up with all the changes on the profile of "The Conquerer"? :)

Randi:

Your comments and questions are welcome.. I'm sure several people will look into this. I, myself, am not an expert here...

It is so very hard with all this merges on a popular profile to keep things straight.... and stable.

Randi:

Notice that:

"This profile is currently locked and may only be edited by curators."

It is searchable in two ways: As William the Conqueror and by his given name.
Does that help?

Someone else will have to explain the situation with why he had multiple sets of parents...

I could not be much help at this time. My research back in 2002 show's only one wife Matilda.

She was the daughter of Count Baldwin IV of Flanders and Princess Adela of France.

It is very possible that he had a lot of partners during that time line.

I have noticed the same several days ago. Not just for that profile, but someone has gone through and "PRIVATE" across all iinks we have up the tree to include one down from the Mayflower Alden's as well as up toward the Plantagenet kings on our four+ connects...

Beyond aggravating and looking for serious answers here also...

Kenneth: possible, but not likely. In an age when bigamy and concubines were rampant, William the Conqueror was remarkable for his fidelity to his one and only wife.

Geni Tech Support needs to find and squash that bug - it's causing A LOT of trouble.

The real name of this "king" because coming from France is Guillaume le Conquérant and nothing else!

Jean Marie, logically I'd agree about "Guillaume". His name varies a little depending on the language in which he is written. Here in Norway the encyclopedia write his name "Vilhelm I av England" or "Vilhelm Erobreren". He was (supposedly) of Norwegian decendant, via his the Viking King "Rollo" (Norwgian: Rolv, or Hrolf).

William's birthname was hardly "le Conquerant" anyway. He didn't become the conqueror until 1066, on British soil. So who nick named him, the British or the French people?

The words "...second great grandfather" got lost between "via his" and "the Viking King..."

the profile is multilingual. in the English tab he is William "The Conqueror", King of England, and in the French tab he is Guillaume le Conquérant, roi d'angleterre

It's no problem to find "Vilhelm Erövraren" for us in Sweden either...

I'm sorry for different people, but we must wright "Guillaume" within a genealogical tree and nothing else, even if we can say in our own language William, Wilhelm and so on. Guillaume was born in Normandie and when he became king of England, the language of courtesy was the French for a time. We could say that old english was a simple patois for the populace and some french nationalist could say without great error that England was simply a french colony at that time!
For his title he was and remained DUC de Normandie (1035) before being King of England/Roi d'Angleterre

there was no set spelling for his name. the Bayeux Tapestry which was near contemporary with him spells his name Willelm

This "one form for all users" beeswax became obsolete when Geni introduced language variations. Now each can have it their own way by selecting the appropriate language.

Drives me nuts that change cause now each side is fighting saying my way or the highway.. ignoring this...

Private User what is your source for saying that the Normans at that time had the French language as their common spoken and written language. In this part of todays France, most people at this time had Nordic ancestors who spoke the Nordic language. There are only 3 generations between Wilhem and Rollo, who absolutely spoke and wrote (if he could write) a Nordic language. And because of that, Rollo's children and grandchildren probably also would. Why not his great grandchild Wilhem to?

Actually, people in general speak the language that would be understood by the most, thus, very quickly adopting new languages and leaving the old, in only two generation and certainly in three, they would all speak the same language as the majority in the most cases.

Depending on how many languages that flourish in a region, some learn to speak as many of them as they see useful, some nomads have for example spoke up to 7 different languages as young as 7 years old, just because they needed it.

It gets harder to learn a new language the older people become, but their kids do not have that restriction, so if someone were too old to learn, he would most likely have had a translator at his side, if he were wealthy, thus continuing to speak what ever language he had.

Lastly, the development of Rhaeto-Romanic languages have been very rapid, thus, French are actually beside English one of the newest languages today.

so much for the ancient Sumerian upgrade.

illiamway uhthay onquerorcay? no no no

I keep trying to delete my comments. I double entered it. Won't let me.

@Arrows
Thanks for the smile. :<)

I take it your ancestors were pidgins who spoke English?

Lets not get started with the anna banana too

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillaume_le_Conqu%C3%A9rant
Bonjour Randi Charlotte Kjærvik
you wrote
I'd agree about "Guillaume". His name varies a little depending on the language in which he is written

at this time england(...) was speaking French!

http://homes.chass.utoronto.ca/~cpercy/courses/6361Heys.htm

http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/10-things-you-may-not-kno...

He made England speak Franglais.

William spoke no English when he ascended the throne, and he failed to master it despite his efforts. (Like most nobles of his time, he also happened to be illiterate.) Thanks to the Norman invasion, French was spoken in England’s courts for centuries and completely transformed the English language, infusing it with new words.

merci a tous et salutation
martin

England was not speaking french. The aristocracy and lords were speaking french. The commoners spoke old English

http://homes.chass.utoronto.ca/~cpercy/courses/6361Heys.htm
"French as a Mother-Tongue in Medieval England"

Oh wait ... That's not about his name!

We added his name in multiple languages.

I am intrigued by the Nordic language point made. Which variation would it have been?

So, if every body would be OK, we must use the language of the tapestry of Bayeux which is latin and the name and dignity of Guillaume/William " VVILGELM ( not Wilhelm dear Jason!) Normannorum Ducem". No nationalist conflict!
I do insist that we must write by right in the language of origin ( Guillaume was baptized in France…), even if modernized. So for my part, I shall use french for Guillaume and english for his british descendants.

Jean-Marie MUSSINI
je prefererais la langue originel etant entendu Francais non moderne ici

Guillaume Le Conquerant ! est sont seul nom aplicable

voici en exemple

Richard "the Lionheart", king of England
hes not and cant be ever richard lionhart loll he never spoke a single word of english thats an insult to disguise hes name!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Richard_Coeur_d...

where is that statue again.....

now back to Guillaume le Conquerant dont change his name dont translate and btw he was not latin ...

merci de prendre note
martin

I'm a novice at this business and am mightily confused. My wife (i.e. Phyllis Glater) received a printout showing that William the Conqueror was her 21st great grandfather. Subsequently, when I tried to go back to that sequence, I got an indication that there was no such connection. Another attempt indicated that William was my wife's eighth great aunt's husband's first cousin four times removed. WOW! What a difference! Is there anybody out there who can tell me what the real connection is?

Everyone - there need be no language debate. Geni now allows us to view names in multiple languages.

Please see http://help.geni.com/entries/70432150-How-do-I-add-multilingual-nam... to understand how it works.

For the relationship questions, please see

https://www.geni.com/projects/Working-with-Relationships/17570